CVL-Caledon Literary Group Transcript for 2018-08-09

Jack Finney — The Love Letter

16:45 VSTE Landing Point Welcome back to VSTE Island, friend!
16:46 Valibrarian Gregg Hi Wordsmith :) We can sit over here behind me....but I will also stand here and keep my eye on the landing point?
16:46 Valibrarian Gregg ok?
16:47 Valibrarian Gregg Hi Selby! Walk this way to the seating area
16:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Sure
16:47 Valibrarian Gregg http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife//63/133/21
16:47 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) ok
16:50 Valibrarian Gregg ty Thinkerer
16:55 Valibrarian Gregg Welcome Maggie!
16:55 Valibrarian Gregg glad to see you
16:55 Maggie Larimore hang on, I have to send some last minute stuff so just a sec
16:55 Valibrarian Gregg sure!
17:00 Savage Taurus hello
17:01 Valibrarian Gregg YW!
17:02 Valibrarian Gregg Welcome to the CVL-VSTE Literary Study Group. Virtual worlds provide a perfect way to discuss literature across distance!

We meet on the 2nd Thurs of each month and usually read a short story (often Sc-Fi genre). We alternate between this location and our CVL Literary Study campfire.


We are excited to share our Literary Study for August 2018 with the Virtual World MOOC! I am the Director of the Community Virtual Library and we partner with educational communities like VSTE.

You can find our calendar of events on our website at https://communityvirtuallibrary.wordpress.com/
17:02 Miss Basque (berdaxagar) Hi!
17:04 Pionia Destiny waves at Miss Basque
17:05 Savage Taurus yes
17:05 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) hearing
17:05 Valibrarian Gregg Please click on the Chocolate Cake- in front of me on the rug :)
17:05 Valibrarian Gregg You sound great
17:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen Anyone not able to hear voice?
17:05 Miss Basque (berdaxagar) I can
17:06 Cliff Eclipse I dont know....sounds like a gravely voice, a lot of smoking when you were young?
17:06 Valibrarian Gregg We will use both voice and text- very flexible.
17:06 Valibrarian Gregg I hear Wordsmith now loud and clear
17:06 Valibrarian Gregg Yes! Last month was cool because it was "old time radio"! an audio story around the camp fire
17:07 Savage Taurus old paper, old ink, old stamp, old post office
17:07 Valibrarian Gregg It is fine if you did not have time to read the story! available here http://web.archive.org/web/20090223182332/http://homepage.mac.com/cssfan/jackfinney/sep590801016.htm
17:09 Savage Taurus I thought it was very interesting how he describes night tiem being different than day
17:09 Savage Taurus I often feel that way
17:09 Maggie Larimore It's aa kind of altered state, a time when the details around
17:09 Maggie Larimore you may not be so clear
17:09 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, so do I.
17:09 Valibrarian Gregg yes! I felt his mood at the beginning was a bit tired and "disillusioned"- bc his date was nothing special
17:09 Maggie Larimore I have felt that way too
17:09 Savage Taurus when someone is grieving or depressed, it often hits them worst in the wee hours of the night
17:09 Maggie Larimore a bit dissociated as if you can feel the past around you
17:10 Savage Taurus perhaps because the rays of the sun are blocked by the earth
17:10 Wordsmith Jarvinen Or even just tired. The wolves come closer, so to speak.
17:10 Valibrarian Gregg And he also feels (this was 1959) the world is changing and we are losing the quaint slow-paced life.
17:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen A simpler world
17:11 Maggie Larimore although it wasn't, his protagonists often fnd out
17:11 Valibrarian Gregg He describes the library and the post office as lovely quaint "center of the community" spaces.
17:12 Wordsmith Jarvinen And important that the post office shares both times.
17:12 Maggie Larimore and it's key that's a building that exists in both times
17:12 Valibrarian Gregg and--- I loved how he described his feelings at night.. "The night is a strange time when you're alone in it, the rest of your world asleep. If I'd found that letter in the daytime, I'd have smiled and shown it to a few friends, then forgotten it. "
17:12 Savage Taurus there is more of an otherworldly feel late at night, as if the vale between realms is thinner
17:12 Valibrarian Gregg exactly Savage!
17:12 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, defining when time is porous.
17:13 Savage Taurus like the rays of the sun drive away ghosts and faeries, but at night we are exposed to the deep vast void of space
17:13 Savage Taurus sort of like the rats / dragons
17:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen I tried to think of a concise expression for the mood -- sort of a restless malaise.
17:13 Savage Taurus scattered by light
17:14 Valibrarian Gregg I like how Finney struggles with the character's own explanation of why he answered the letter! Made it seem so real
17:14 Maggie Larimore what I love about him is his matter of fact descriptions
17:14 Valibrarian Gregg There in the silence of a timeless spring night it seemed natural enough to uncork that old bottle, pick up the pen beside it, ........
17:14 Maggie Larimore and the action -- this movement between times seems so possible, so normal
17:14 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes .... and having written it, not wanting to trash it or have it returned.
17:15 Maggie Larimore he's kind of a lyrical Hemingway if that's possible, the lyrical quality is never too much
17:15 Valibrarian Gregg yes Maggie! I remember the first book I encountered on time travel as a child! The girl put on a magic ring and the world changed around her....same place/ different time. We are all fascinated by time.
17:15 Savage Taurus I found this story to be very moving, even though I would not usually choose to watch the chick flicks this has obviously inspired
17:15 Wordsmith Jarvinen What prompts Jake to write the return letter?
17:16 Savage Taurus something in the ernestness of her plee
17:16 Valibrarian Gregg me too Savage (I hate sappy stories!!) and somehow this was not at all sappy.
17:16 Maggie Larimore but also his sense that it's his time to be meetng the one, and the women he's dating just aren't that, so that restless again on his part
17:17 Maggie Larimore he's ready for a great love
17:17 Valibrarian Gregg I think Jake feels that the girl from the 1800s- who wrote the letter- shares his feelings. He absolutely understands her words in his soul.
17:17 Wordsmith Jarvinen Touched by her letter; motivated to reply, even if not expecting his reply to reach her.
17:17 Savage Taurus I could identify with her longing to find the perfect mate. Though at 21, most people her age nowadays would be more experienced
17:17 Valibrarian Gregg It is like they are collaborating on a poem....across time.
17:17 Maggie Larimore altho that doesn't mean that modern kids aren't still longing to meet the one
17:17 Wordsmith Jarvinen I like that image, Val.
17:18 Valibrarian Gregg and I like how the anticipation builds.....as he realizes that there may be yet another secret door!
17:18 Savage Taurus yes that is well done, the 3 drawers...3 is often a powerful number to use in writing
17:19 Wordsmith Jarvinen A lot of the story is descriptive. Even down to the stamps.
17:19 Valibrarian Gregg yes Savage...especially in fairy tales and fantasy (hence in sci-fi)
17:19 Savage Taurus yes there is lots of description
17:19 Maggie Larimore that's what I love about him, he anchors the fantasy in the real, whether it's his time or the time he touches or travels to
17:19 Valibrarian Gregg I think those visual details really helped the reader contrast the two time periods.
17:20 Savage Taurus thats part of what makes the story so effective. Both time periods feel real
17:20 Maggie Larimore me too and also believe it
17:20 Maggie Larimore right they do feel very real
17:20 Wordsmith Jarvinen And that time nostalgia again, where the street is tree-lined rather than holding junkyards.
17:21 Savage Taurus I usually read to my mom every night in the nursing home. Tonight I started by telling her this story from what I remembered of it. She liked it
17:21 Valibrarian Gregg I was transported to the 1800s for sure. When he talked about the concrete- lack of trees and the automobiles surrounding him -so different than the photo he finds at the library.....sprawling open tree-lined streets and a girl in a long dress/parasol.
17:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen Although, I'm sure the past also had it's dismal places of disadvantage, but they've shifted places over time.
17:21 Valibrarian Gregg That is awesome Savage! It would be a fun story to tell.
17:22 Maggie Larimore in Time and Again he sees more of that be the protagonist inhabits the other time for long stretches,
17:22 Savage Taurus heh I thought it was funny that she sent a selfie to him
17:22 Wordsmith Jarvinen That is awesome -- and is a ripple moving out from what we do here.
17:23 Savage Taurus really not so different from modern women
17:23 Maggie Larimore he has a scene in that book where he's riding a cable car down 5th avenue and there's so much detail about the people on the street, the busiinesses operating in the buildings on either side, you are thee with him
17:23 Valibrarian Gregg Savage- I had not even thought of that! It WAS a selfie- a picture of herself (some things never change)
17:24 Maggie Larimore well but she couldn't give him anything else of herself except what she looked like and her promise, so it's like she wants him to thinkk of her, not some faceless woman in 19th century clothing
17:24 Savage Taurus yes it was very thoughtful of her
17:24 Savage Taurus its a shame he didnt send a picture of himself
17:25 Savage Taurus and cars!
17:25 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes. And while she can't change a drawer once he opens it, no telling if she oscillated in her reply before settling on just the picture.
17:25 Savage Taurus and airplanes!
17:25 Maggie Larimore but she was dreaming about him, so she's got an image she's attached to Jake, and he doesn't have one of her
17:25 Savage Taurus thats true
17:25 Maggie Larimore I'll bet she did think it through
17:25 Valibrarian Gregg The story illustrated how we can CONNECT simply through words.....as we are doing at this moment.
17:26 Maggie Larimore and maybe went and had the photo done
17:26 Savage Taurus she might have been disappointed if he didnt match what her dream was like
17:26 Maggie Larimore exactly, so she was okay with her dream image of that perfect person
17:26 Maggie Larimore but she wanted him to really know who she was
17:26 Maggie Larimore to strengthen the connection
17:27 Cliff Eclipse Smiles, wishing he could stay and contribute. Take care you all.
17:27 Maggie Larimore I can imagine she would get into those hidden drawers across her life and reread his letter
17:27 Valibrarian Gregg The story provides both a sense of loss and a sense of fulfillment in a deep connection. short and powerful
17:27 Maggie Larimore thanks for coming Cliff
17:27 Maggie Larimore I agree Val
17:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen Were the emotional reactions of Helen and Jake plausible?
17:27 Savage Taurus for a while, when I was first in online worlds, I didnt want to know anything about the real people behind the avatars, because I didnt want the illusion broken
17:27 Valibrarian Gregg interesting Savage....and then?
17:27 Savage Taurus things change
17:28 Wordsmith Jarvinen They do.
17:28 Savage Taurus switched from fantasy games to more time in SL
17:28 Valibrarian Gregg Do you feel you get to know the "real" person here.....no matter how they represent themselves as an avatar?
17:29 Savage Taurus also, people started to use voice more, which pretty much breaks the fantasy that the person is an elf or orc, or what gender they are
17:29 Wordsmith Jarvinen I still recall that one of the first meetings I went to in SL was streaming a climate conference. At the end, the avitar seated near me, got up and hopped off (a kangaroo).
17:29 Savage Taurus I definitely feel you get to know people better in SL than other MMOs
17:29 Valibrarian Gregg How many of you remember when hardly anyone used voice? When I first entered- I don't think it was yet a feature in SL.
17:29 Maggie Larimore I agree Savage
17:30 Maggie Larimore I think you learn to listen or read the person and the variations in form move to the background, that can have a big impact on how you see people in RL
17:30 Savage Taurus there was a movie where a firefighter was able to talk to his son over the radio...so like this story but through voice
17:30 Valibrarian Gregg I remember a long snake avatar came to the library ref desk! I had to turn my camera away! Someone said he looked creepy- then he changed himself to a bunny haha
17:31 Maggie Larimore my favorite experience of that was listening to the manager of the Spanish Association of Medicine's sim back in the day and he was centaur with horns and fire coming out of his horns, but I heard his description of why they set up the sim, both for meetings between them and for the privacy of prospective patients
17:31 Maggie Larimore I started to get the message that you have to listen and feel instead of judge an opportunity away because somebody has lots of tats, or piercings, dreads, whatever
17:32 Maggie Larimore lol Val
17:32 Valibrarian Gregg Don't you think we learn to use the formats for various "best purposes" here? Sometimes audio, sometimes text, sometimes movement, sometimes only our words.....a constant dance of interaction.
17:33 Valibrarian Gregg I think the concept of the desk with the hidden secret doors fits well into a virtual world! Simply click on it and see what happens ;)
17:33 Savage Taurus yes we have many social tools here. SL is 3D social media more than a game
17:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen And things do bleed (as in fabric dye) between worlds
17:33 Savage Taurus secret doors, hidden passages, bookcases and fireplaces that turn, wardrobes that lead into forests
17:34 Miss Basque (berdaxagar) Sometimes a secret drawer stands for hidden truth or a turn of fortune.
17:34 Maggie Larimore absolutely, skills, attitudes, experiences, learning
17:34 Valibrarian Gregg The first virtual worlds (MUDs and MOOs) were text only--- right?
17:34 Savage Taurus true
17:34 Maggie Larimore yep
17:34 Savage Taurus there wasnt much interaction between players though
17:35 Savage Taurus mostly kill and loot and explore
17:35 Valibrarian Gregg Wordsmith- I am reading the quotes you put in the discussion NC- from Kung Fu. I like this one! Totally fits the story - "Master Kan: Sometimes a stranger, known to us for moments, can spark our souls to kinship for eternity."
17:35 Wordsmith Jarvinen Do dances in SL, I was surprised at the visual presentation activated kinesthetic memory of RL dancing.
17:36 Savage Taurus yes dances in SL are something that happens in other games very rarely
17:37 Savage Taurus it is interesting how someone can get focused on a person they barely know
17:37 Wordsmith Jarvinen I realized that I have another two lines from that Kung Fu interaction on a notecard.
17:37 Savage Taurus I think that some from loneliness
17:37 Savage Taurus *comes
17:37 Valibrarian Gregg yes- I think we all have experienced moments that seemed to overlap physical and virtual life. Once a fellow colleague on a SL project talked about a rough time she was having in rl. A group of about 6 of us (men/women) noticed that we had gathered - sitting and standing around her avatar.....very real moment.
17:37 Wordsmith Jarvinen Young Caine: How can strangers take on such importance to our souls?
17:38 Savage Taurus in City Slickers, Curly said he fell in love with some woman he only saw in the distance once
17:38 Wordsmith Jarvinen Master Kan: Because our soul does not keep time, it merely records growth.
17:38 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) Emile:
Some enchanted evening
You may see a stranger,
you may see a stranger
Across a crowded room
And somehow you know,
You know even then
That somewhere you'll see her
Again and again.

source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/soundtracks/s/southpacificlyrics/someenchantedeveninglyrics.html
17:39 Valibrarian Gregg perfect Thinkerer! theme song fits the story
17:39 Savage Taurus yes Val, I find that people in SL are much more supportive than most other places on the internet
17:40 Valibrarian Gregg Savage- I think the reason we connect well here is that social media and other online platforms are not "persistent"- they are more disposable (just scroll, click, delete).
17:40 Savage Taurus true
17:40 Valibrarian Gregg and that relates to Jake in the story.....he was looking for a deep connection
17:41 Maggie Larimore wonderful Thinkerer
17:41 Wordsmith Jarvinen Here, we are also choosing those we wish to have around us, with the limits of proximity removed.
17:41 Savage Taurus i remember when I was living alone, before the advent of online worlds, and read a book by a physicist and I emailed her to tell her my thoughts, and felt like we connected. But it really was just loneliness
17:41 Valibrarian Gregg That doesn't mean it is always a "looking for love!" space--- but looking for real people to connect not just "brag about their edited lives"
17:41 Maggie Larimore and Helen is looking for the same thing
17:41 Maggie Larimore that connecton
17:42 Savage Taurus haha true Val
17:42 Valibrarian Gregg yes- they both connected bc they understood exactly what was needed
17:42 Valibrarian Gregg and what they were seeking
17:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen And someone who treats her thoughts seriously.
17:42 Savage Taurus yes
17:42 Valibrarian Gregg Worsmith- this quote your shared really fits too: "Young Caine: Master, what is the best way to meet the loss of a loved one?

Master Kan: By knowing that when we truly love, it is never lost... It is only after death that the depth of the bond is truly felt, and our loved one becomes more a part of us than was possible in life."
17:43 Valibrarian Gregg thinks that relates to the ending- which was quite satisfying
17:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen It came to mind as I was thinking about the discussion. It's something I jotted down on a 3x5 notecard years back.
17:44 Savage Taurus I also feel sad that she never found a love in her life better than someone who wrote to her when she was 21
17:44 Valibrarian Gregg Have any of you lost someone (through death) that you only knew here in SL?
17:45 Valibrarian Gregg yes Savage - the story is sad but meaningful
17:45 Savage Taurus I often think of people who I havent seen in SL for a while, hoping they are doing well
17:45 Valibrarian Gregg I have been to a memorial for someone I worked with on many projects--- It was as real as real can be.
17:45 Miss Basque (berdaxagar) No.
17:45 Valibrarian Gregg She helped me learn SO much and was very kind to me.
17:45 Wordsmith Jarvinen Given the view of time expressed in the story, could Jake have taken it further?
17:46 Valibrarian Gregg He felt that the 3rd drawer was his last chance/
17:46 Maggie Larimore I've been to a couple of those memorials, of people I only knew her, who had a big iimact on me
17:47 Maggie Larimore I think in the short story format Finney limited what Jack was willing to do
17:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Could he have mailed modern stamps to her?
17:47 Savage Taurus I feel like they could have found other ways to continue communicating
17:47 Maggie Larimore in Time and Again he's all in, totally immersed, the protagonists
17:47 Maggie Larimore (his main characters tend to be a variation on Jake, on himself probably)
17:48 Wordsmith Jarvinen Would sending a modern penny to her, open a way for her to come forward in time (in the depth of night, of course)
17:48 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) The limitation was par of the story
17:48 Valibrarian Gregg yes- I suppose he could have added ways for them to communicate. But he did an excellent job getting me to "suspend my disbelief" in part by keeping it so simple.
17:48 Valibrarian Gregg Thinkerer said it more concisely!
17:48 Maggie Larimore and his belief that the three drawers were all they could do kept them from meeting
17:48 Maggie Larimore but it was better for her and him probably
17:49 Valibrarian Gregg Interesting question Wordsmith.....seems time travel usually involves some physical object?
17:49 Maggie Larimore and it's wondeful thinking that she had a life that might have been fulfilling in its own way, and when she needed him she could open those drawers and read his words again
17:50 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) To love pure and chaste from afar
17:50 Maggie Larimore and that at some point, she reset her desk, to just the first letter, so that he found things in the right order maybe?
17:50 Savage Taurus I can imagine a scene where after a long communication, one day Jake find the post office demolished
17:50 Wordsmith Jarvinen The stamps were important in getting things to here .... a letter had to be deliverable in her time and have an outside congruence with her time.
17:50 Valibrarian Gregg Savage - you must like dystopian fiction lol
17:50 Savage Taurus heh
17:51 Valibrarian Gregg Thinkerer- pure and chaste from afar makes me think they neither ever found someone else- we will never know
17:51 Savage Taurus I liked his description of the post office as being something mysterious that its own workers didnt fully understand
17:52 Savage Taurus that letters would turn up decades later and the workers had no idea why
17:52 Valibrarian Gregg yes yes- I liked the post office too! My dad was a mailman- and me a librarian- so I have told him we are both in "information science & info delivery" :)
17:52 Savage Taurus heh
17:52 Valibrarian Gregg and it makes me think of archival in the digital age- emails, etc- no more letters
17:53 Wordsmith Jarvinen Well, she was engaged already, but the annotation on her gravestone implies that she knew she was understood one time by at least someone.
17:53 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) Also -- It is a writer's challenge to tell a story mostly in letters
17:53 Valibrarian Gregg the archivist of the USA recently said the #1 challenge in the information age is changing formats- being able to keep important info available
17:54 Maggie Larimore and that he would find her through time and probably by finding her grave, so I iimagine her living a full life with another type of love, children, grandchildren, but retaining that connection to him
17:54 Valibrarian Gregg yes- She NEVER forgot
17:54 Maggie Larimore and him too maybe, not necessarily alone, but still rememberng her, looking for her
17:54 Valibrarian Gregg It was a bittersweet ending...the idea that he never knew her yet was never forgotten-
17:55 Savage Taurus reminds me of a Kafka-esque novel or movie
17:55 Maggie Larimore I agree
17:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen The ending touch me deeply.
17:56 Maggie Larimore Finney does that, again kind of Hemingwayesque
17:56 Valibrarian Gregg kind of an oxymoron in a way
17:56 Valibrarian Gregg finding the most important thing and losing it at the same time
17:56 Maggie Larimore he brings it home to a deep truth but almost unemotionally
17:56 Valibrarian Gregg Wordsmith will be announcing next month's story soon!
17:56 Savage Taurus I imagine her husband and children thought she was talking about them
17:56 Maggie Larimore so the protagonist doesn't seem sappy but you feel it pretty deeply
17:56 Maggie Larimore probably Savage
17:57 Valibrarian Gregg This was an excellent discussion and I hope you enjoyed the "sense of presence" virtually :)
17:57 Maggie Larimore pretty cool!
17:57 Savage Taurus I really enjoyed this story
17:57 Valibrarian Gregg The best way to keep informed about our next short story discussion (and book discussion) is one of the following:
17:57 Maggie Larimore me too
17:57 Maggie Larimore and it's one I hadn't read before
17:57 Maggie Larimore so that was wonderful
17:58 Wordsmith Jarvinen And wonderful that you enjoyed the story (or found it meaningful ....)
17:58 Valibrarian Gregg Pardon if this is a long list- but want you to connect in whatever way is good for you!
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17:59 Valibrarian Gregg TY to Wordsmith for leading the Literary Study Group!!!
17:59 Savage Taurus you sure have the format problem covered
17:59 Valibrarian Gregg and thanks VWMOOC 2018 for sharing this with us.
17:59 Valibrarian Gregg Wordsmith- if we have suggestions for stories to discuss- can we contact you?
18:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thank you, Val for arranging the hosting.
18:00 Maggie Larimore and thanks to you guys! The descrption for the video is going to be very full!
18:00 Savage Taurus heh
18:00 Valibrarian Gregg Next month will be at the CVL campfire- will drop LM
18:00 Maggie Larimore Val will there be a chat transcript?
18:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Certainly. Contact away inworld or wordsmithjarvinen@gmail.com
18:00 Maggie Larimore remember you can always use space in Chilbo , we have lots of meeting spots
18:01 Valibrarian Gregg ty Maggie! We love collaborating with communities! so I will be in touch :)
18:01 Valibrarian Gregg Chilbo is a beautiful space
18:01 Maggie Larimore great! we have a great campfire up in a tree ....
18:01 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) One story suggestion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathrine_Taylor
18:01 Maggie Larimore just saying
18:01 Valibrarian Gregg I hope to see you all around the VWMOOC
18:01 Maggie Larimore oh just a sec
18:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Maggie, I could create one (transcript)
18:02 Valibrarian Gregg ty THinkerer- Wordsmith can you check on that one?
18:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen I do that for Oxbridges Q&A meetings
18:02 Maggie Larimore thanks Wordsmith! We like to put it in the wallboard in HQ after something finishes up
18:03 Valibrarian Gregg MOre MOOC events coming https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dVtIha1-P1t6t7GEFjzGYd8aegU_OVzRQM-BHzxYwNg/edit
18:03 Maggie Larimore I gave you that aren't participating in the MOOC the VWMOOCHQ in Madhupak which is part of the Chilbo neighborhood
18:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen The format is something like this, but you could tweak that.
18:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna/qna_20180805.php
18:04 Maggie Larimore in case you want to explore the course and pick up extras like the biographies and freebies
18:04 Maggie Larimore thanks Wordsmith, that looks great
18:04 Valibrarian Gregg Wordsmith- I have not seen a transcript like that before! cool
18:04 Maggie Larimore I sent you a friend request so you can find me
18:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'm also the webmaster for Oxbridge.
18:04 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) https://www.amazon.com/Address-Kressmann-Taylor/dp/1518869769
18:04 Valibrarian Gregg This was a very enjoyable discussion everyone!
18:05 Savage Taurus it was
18:05 Maggie Larimore thanks so much you guys!
18:05 Savage Taurus thanks everyone
18:05 Miss Basque (berdaxagar) Thanks!
18:05 Valibrarian Gregg That book looks Cool Selby
18:05 Maggie Larimore I think the learners will love the video
18:05 Maggie Larimore got to run
18:05 Valibrarian Gregg I must head out......hope to see you all soon.
18:05 Valibrarian Gregg Goodbye for now
18:05 Maggie Larimore me too!
18:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen Journey well.
18:05 Savage Taurus night folks
18:05 Miss Basque (berdaxagar) See you!
18:05 Maggie Larimore tmorrow at noon SLT in the HQ is Dieter Heyne, come join us!
18:05 ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville) Very interesting -- Bye all
18:05 Valibrarian Gregg yes yes Cybalounge!
18:05 Maggie Larimore night now
18:06 Maggie Larimore :-)