| 16:48 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
I got the notecard...TY- Do you want to put one in the gold vase? |
| 16:49 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Okay, I put out announcements to the ISC and COUG groups. |
| 16:50 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
I sent reminders too |
| 16:50 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Go ahead and replace the note in the vase, Val. |
| 16:50 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
ok |
| 16:51 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
The vase has the current discussion notecard |
| 16:52 |
Phrynne |
I think I have working voice tonight, along with the tail end of the cold going around; I'll do my best not to cough into the mike. |
| 16:52 |
Phrynne |
hi Kay |
| 16:52 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
welcome Kay :) |
| 16:52 |
KayCooper |
Hello :) |
| 16:52 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And what would you like to, Val. Attempt a reading, stick with discussion, ... |
| 16:52 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Hi, Kay :) |
| 16:53 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
hhmm I am up for either- If there are those who have not read it? We could read |
| 16:53 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
but if we have all read it- maybe discuss? |
| 16:53 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
hehe Cat trouble |
| 16:54 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Welcome olopierpa :) |
| 16:54 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
sound good Phrynne |
| 16:54 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
hallo all |
| 16:54 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
There is a notecard in the gold vase in front of Wordsmith |
| 16:54 |
KayCooper |
Hi Ololo |
| 16:54 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Hi Ololo |
| 16:54 |
Phrynne |
hello Ololo! |
| 16:55 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
:) |
| 16:56 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Here is the link to our story- in case there is anyone needing it: https://uncannymagazine.com/article/the-hydraulic-emperor/ |
| 16:56 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
I downloaded it, but had no time to read it... |
| 16:56 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
and we can use voice or text or a combination of both! |
| 16:57 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
It is fine if you have not read it....I think you will still enjoy the discussion! |
| 16:57 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
sure |
| 17:01 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
It is the top of the hour....shall we begin? |
| 17:01 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Wordsmith? |
| 17:01 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
yes |
| 17:01 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Go ahead with a welcome |
| 17:02 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_Martine |
| 17:03 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Welcome Stranger |
| 17:03 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
We are just starting |
| 17:03 |
KayCooper |
Hi Stranger |
| 17:03 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
hallo |
| 17:04 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Anyone up for reading/listening? |
| 17:04 |
KayCooper |
I don't mind listening |
| 17:04 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Stranger? Have you read it yet? |
| 17:05 |
Stranger Nightfire |
hello Val |
| 17:05 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
https://uncannymagazine.com/article/the-hydraulic-emperor/ |
| 17:05 |
Stranger Nightfire |
have not read it |
| 17:05 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
and Welcome Fiduciaa |
| 17:05 |
Stranger Nightfire |
hello Kay |
| 17:05 |
Fɪᴅᴜᴄɪᴀᴀ xᴏʟᴏᴛʟ (fiduciaa) |
ty |
| 17:05 |
Phrynne |
yes, I'll read |
| 17:06 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
yes I will read aloud |
| 17:06 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Yes, I'll read |
| 17:06 |
Stranger Nightfire |
i could try reading |
| 17:06 |
Stranger Nightfire |
if i can find the story |
| 17:06 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
anyone else want to read a bit |
| 17:06 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
https://uncannymagazine.com/article/the-hydraulic-emperor/ |
| 17:06 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
that link is our story! |
| 17:06 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
https://uncannymagazine.com/article/the-hydraulic-emperor/ |
| 17:07 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Ludo |
| 17:07 |
KayCooper |
Hi Ludo |
| 17:07 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Ludo we are going to read this story |
| 17:07 |
Phrynne |
hi Ludo |
| 17:07 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
https://uncannymagazine.com/article/the-hydraulic-emperor/ |
| 17:07 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
and you can be a reader or just listen!!! |
| 17:07 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
whichever you prefer |
| 17:08 |
Stranger Nightfire |
I can see this one is not going to be an easy read |
| 17:08 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Wordsmith--- start anytime! |
| 17:08 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
maybe a few paragraphs? |
| 17:08 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Just say "PASS" if you prefer not to read :) |
| 17:08 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
we will go clockwise |
| 17:12 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
great |
| 17:13 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Fiduciaa? next up? |
| 17:13 |
Fɪᴅᴜᴄɪᴀᴀ xᴏʟᴏᴛʟ (fiduciaa) |
(sorry seems mic not working) |
| 17:13 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Is your mic working Fiduciaa |
| 17:13 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
ok! |
| 17:14 |
KayCooper |
yeah |
| 17:14 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
I can't read. Please skip me. |
| 17:14 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Sure Ololo :) |
| 17:16 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
no problem :) |
| 17:18 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Ludo? terrific~ |
| 17:28 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
yes! |
| 17:33 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Stranger? |
| 17:53 |
Stranger Nightfire |
I am going to have to leave |
| 17:54 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
bye Stranger! good to see you |
| 17:54 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
g'nite! |
| 17:58 |
Ludofun (quippe.wylder) |
I have to pass. |
| 17:58 |
Fɪᴅᴜᴄɪᴀᴀ xᴏʟᴏᴛʟ (fiduciaa) |
k |
| 18:01 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Great story! |
| 18:01 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
and great readings! |
| 18:01 |
KayCooper |
*•.¸'*•.¸ ★ ¸.•*´¸.•* |
| 18:01 |
KayCooper |
.•*★¨`• Aρρlɑuѕɛ •¨`★*•. |
| 18:01 |
KayCooper |
¸.•*`¸.•*´ ★ `*•.¸`*•.¸ |
| 18:02 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
So many cool images! |
| 18:02 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Clap Clap Clap!!! |
| 18:02 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
:) |
| 18:02 |
Phrynne |
that was fun |
| 18:02 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
I liked the "sip of blood" to verify your identity!! |
| 18:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I think Kay liked it. :) |
| 18:02 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
and your financial authenticity etc |
| 18:02 |
KayCooper |
hehe |
| 18:02 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
quite interesting |
| 18:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
small sips. |
| 18:03 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
yes- tiny sips |
| 18:03 |
KayCooper |
Now I need to see The Hydraulic Emperor :/ I'm so curious |
| 18:03 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
So, having listened to it, what was Aeverill's goal? |
| 18:03 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
the idea of "immersive film" |
| 18:03 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
we are right near it! |
| 18:03 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Who might he have been working for? |
| 18:03 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
on the edge |
| 18:03 |
KayCooper |
to make it so she couldn't see it? |
| 18:04 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Yes, I believe that was it, Kay |
| 18:04 |
Phrynne |
It reminds me of a line from a Lois McMaster Bujold novel: "The only think you can't give for your heart's desire is your heart." |
| 18:04 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It wasn't to get the box, but to make her give up the emperor to get the box. |
| 18:04 |
Phrynne |
This was so much about desire. |
| 18:04 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
wow- sort of a revenge> |
| 18:04 |
KayCooper |
The question is, did he do it so she would still have something left to search for, or was it some kind of revenge? |
| 18:05 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
No, not revenge. Think next of who he might have been working for. |
| 18:05 |
KayCooper |
The Qath themselves... |
| 18:05 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
and the concept of "old earth" and obsolescence came up |
| 18:05 |
KayCooper |
maybe they wanted to see it |
| 18:05 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
"Julie had six points of scavenged museum data-disks, in a language no one can read anymore, and I saw how much it hurt her to give them up, and how little they were worth." |
| 18:05 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
The theme of loss is vivid |
| 18:06 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Do you think he worked for Skemety? |
| 18:06 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
or maybe he worked for the Qath?! |
| 18:06 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
right Kay!!! |
| 18:06 |
Phrynne |
I think he worked for the Qath |
| 18:07 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Who didn't want the Emperor to be seen? |
| 18:07 |
Phrynne |
and when he was at the point of a gun, five years earlier, he'd worked for whoever owned the gunman. |
| 18:07 |
KayCooper |
yup |
| 18:07 |
KayCooper |
seems like it |
| 18:08 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
the concept of sacrifice as something to "bid" on- having value....cool idea |
| 18:08 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I believe he worked for Skemety herself. |
| 18:08 |
KayCooper |
very cool idea |
| 18:08 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
The personal value makes it a treasure |
| 18:08 |
Phrynne |
the old meaning of 'sacrifice' is 'making sacred' -- so what do the Qath consider sacred? |
| 18:08 |
KayCooper |
It also makes the Qath a bit twisted |
| 18:08 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Wordsmith- I copied this same line because I love it! "Immersive film is not interactive. You’re just there, surrounded by someone’s multi-point vision, like a ghost. The film happens to you. Despite you. No matter what you do." |
| 18:09 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Immersive and interactive are not the same at all! |
| 18:09 |
M. Enbie Traise (otherplanedweller) |
Definitely true, Wordsmith! |
| 18:09 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
You are there as an observer, the fly on the wall. |
| 18:10 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
this discussion has been both immersive and interactive....not sure I would want to be in an immersive experience where you could NOT interact....you don't even exist- interesting though |
| 18:11 |
KayCooper |
It's more like how you watch tv...seems like it might be weirdly relaxing in a way |
| 18:11 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
However, you can learn from those who are interacting. |
| 18:11 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
hhmm Phrynne - good question- I think the Qath show that they value human emotion because what is "feeled" having value they understand as having meaning |
| 18:11 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
true- there is value in relaxing in an immersive space |
| 18:11 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
as well as interacting |
| 18:11 |
M. Enbie Traise (otherplanedweller) |
I've been re-reading Gibson's "Sprawl Trilogy" -- the StimSims are that immersive but not not interactive medium. |
| 18:12 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
This story gives you a lot to think about |
| 18:12 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
oh Willilam Gibson- I keep bumping into his name lol |
| 18:13 |
KayCooper |
So it seems that Skemety didn't want other people to see The Hydraulic Emperor, for some reason, since it is suggested that she has seen it |
| 18:14 |
Ludofun (quippe.wylder) |
She made it, didn't she? |
| 18:14 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And Aeveril, knew the location of Skemety and was able to get the Emperor into Qath hands, safe from human eyes. |
| 18:14 |
KayCooper |
I thought she just put 6 seconds in her film...but she didn't make it |
| 18:14 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
yes I thought she made it...and that Mallory only saw 6 seconds for some reason |
| 18:15 |
KayCooper |
Ohhh, yeah |
| 18:15 |
KayCooper |
it was hers |
| 18:15 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
No, Skemety made the Hydraulic Emperor, but then seemed to decide she didn't want it "seen". |
| 18:15 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
right |
| 18:16 |
KayCooper |
Well that makes a lot more sense then lol |
| 18:16 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Most references list it as lost, as it has never been distributed, and no public archive will admit to possessing it. But there is at least one print of it which survives. |
| 18:16 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
I wonder if Skemety tried to destroy it? |
| 18:16 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
It says..."They may be all there is to know. Skemety might have destroyed the film, or buried it, or dismantled it into component parts." |
| 18:17 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
But Skemety put those 6 seconds into another of her films. that is interesting |
| 18:17 |
KayCooper |
Why put a teaser of it in another film when you want to bury it? |
| 18:18 |
Phrynne |
maybe because that's as much of it as she could stand having people see. |
| 18:18 |
KayCooper |
Good point |
| 18:18 |
KayCooper |
maybe it's terrible |
| 18:18 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
A story with many threads to think about, including what is based on vodka and is blue. |
| 18:18 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
yes Wordsmith- many vivid images |
| 18:19 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Next month- we are doing quite a few events at The Dickens Project....I wonder if we could skip December and kick off the new year with a January Literary Study? |
| 18:19 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
What do you think? |
| 18:20 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
That makes sense, given the outbreak of things to do and see. |
| 18:20 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
ok- if you agree! We could meet at Oxbridge in January |
| 18:20 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
and, btw- I love when we do read alouds! Brings it to life |
| 18:21 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Sounds good. |
| 18:21 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
I must leave but this has been a great time! ty all |
| 18:21 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I do have a short short-story I rememberd. |
| 18:21 |
Fɪᴅᴜᴄɪᴀᴀ xᴏʟᴏᴛʟ (fiduciaa) |
Very enjoyable ty |
| 18:21 |
KayCooper |
Thanks for reading everyone |
| 18:21 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
Thank you readers! |
| 18:22 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
yes! thank you and have a great night |
| 18:22 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
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| 18:22 |
Ludofun (quippe.wylder) |
I need to leave too. |
| 18:22 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
bye for now |
| 18:22 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
tc all. Journey well. |
| 18:22 |
Phrynne |
bye everyone |
| 18:22 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
Good night all |
| 18:22 |
M. Enbie Traise (otherplanedweller) |
How can we NOT have a "Christmas Carol" discussion? The Dr. Who Episode alone warrants it! :) |
| 18:22 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
will be in touch about the next story |
| 18:22 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
Wordsmith picks good ones!! |
| 18:22 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
oh we will have a lot of discussion at the Dickens Project!!! |
| 18:23 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
would love to see you there! |
| 18:23 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I'll see what I can do to make it there |
| 18:23 |
KayCooper |
I might be able to make it to Dec. 3rd |
| 18:23 |
Valibrarian Gregg |
see you soon then |
| 18:24 |
KayCooper |
Have a good night/day everyone |
| 18:24 |
Fɪᴅᴜᴄɪᴀᴀ xᴏʟᴏᴛʟ (fiduciaa) |
Have a lovely evening all> |
| 18:24 |
Ololo Petya (olopierpa) |
later |
| 19:27 |
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