Caledon Oxbridge General Q&A for 2021-10-03

14:57 Larky (larkylouz) Hi everyone
14:57 Larky (larkylouz) Welcome
14:57 lovejoy2199 Hello Dean (BA)
14:59 Harley (yelarh) Hello All
14:59 Larky (larkylouz) considers turning on her Badass Fae tag for Lovejoy's benefit
14:59 Larky (larkylouz) ;^p
15:00 lovejoy2199 (smile*
15:00 Ember (emberell) When Larky went to university, she got her BA... Badass degree :-)
15:00 Larky (larkylouz) LOL. Well, that probably took me several more years to attain, Ember, but perhaps it got its start there!
15:00 Sandie Harbour Maybe I should get that tag too!
15:01 Larky (larkylouz) Welcome, everyone. I don't see Andrea inworld, so I think we may as well start.
15:02 Larky (larkylouz) As for news from my side of the staff, I sent out a large update to the Foreign Language materials for the Faculty Kit last week. It should be in the COU group if you didn't see it.
15:02 Larky (larkylouz) Hi Katie, Welcome
15:02 Katie (katie.canningham) Hi! Thanks!
15:03 Larky (larkylouz) I also have added quite a bit of info to the Notion page today, particularly about Third-party viewers. Other than that. life goes on.
15:03 Larky (larkylouz) Ember, do you have announcements?
15:03 Ember (emberell) I'll be pushing those updates to the faculty kit on campus too, as I can. I'm a bit behind on that. Besides that, I've just been decorating for Halloween. Happy spooky season, friends :-)
15:04 Ember (emberell) For those who may miss the group notices, I'm updating a faculty kit in the staff lounge, in the first tower above the first hall of the orientation.
15:05 Ember (emberell) That's it from me. ❤
15:05 Larky (larkylouz) thanks, Ember. Other announcements?
15:06 Ember (emberell) Elfbiter is still hosting his weekly writer's meeting on Thursdays. And Andrea's dances are every tuesday
15:07 Ember (emberell) We're also always looking for new tutor staff - those interested should come to me for the application inormation and suc. Though all are welcome to hang out and help on campus in an informal way too.
15:07 Larky (larkylouz) I put the Tutor application and the letter I send out to recruit professors on the Notion page, as well.
15:08 Larky (larkylouz) https://www.notion.so/caledonoxbridge/Second-Life-Resources-for-COU-Staff-e4afd11e4c0447158f8989cc4c083b96
15:09 Larky (larkylouz) Okay, thanks Ember. Other announcements?
15:10 Ember (emberell) Not that I can remember off the top of my head, LArky.
15:10 Larky (larkylouz) Okay, let's open things up for questions.
15:11 Larky (larkylouz) Nothing? Comments, discussion, attempts to make this the shortest Q&A on record?
15:12 Ember (emberell) raises her paw
15:12 Larky (larkylouz) Ember?
15:13 Ember (emberell) I heard some talk that LL's attempt to enable MFA for accounts had caused/contributed to the subsequent login troubles and other issues that were seen recently. Have you heard anything more on the MFA, or changes LL has been making?
15:13 Garret Black (pantau) What's MFA, pls?
15:13 Ember (emberell) Multi Factor Authentication
15:13 Ember (emberell) Basically, when you log n, asking for confirmation it is you from a second source.
15:13 Ember (emberell) (usually a phone, or email)
15:14 Garret Black (pantau) .... and that means ..... ?
15:14 Larky (larkylouz) Yes, Inara Pey posts updates on the meetings where they discuss such things. Let me find the post.
15:14 Ember (emberell) Adding multiple factors of security to login, Garret.
15:14 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) https://modemworld.me/2021/09/22/second-life-multi-factor-authentication-the-what-and-how/
15:14 Ember (emberell) That article will cover it better, yes
15:15 Sandy Burgess I have activated it and it works fine for me - just tested
15:16 Larky (larkylouz) https://modemworld.me/2021/10/01/2021-ccug-and-tpv-developer-meetings-week-39-summary/
15:16 Larky (larkylouz) This is the recap of the meeting where they discussed the issues.
15:16 Garret Black (pantau) Avitivated what, and activating it how?
15:16 Sandy Burgess It means when I want to log into my SL account (not the client but the website) I have to enter a number that I get from an authenticator on my phone
15:16 Ember (emberell) thank you!
15:17 Larky (larkylouz) Basically, they're working on it. They meaning LL
15:17 Sandy Burgess You need an authenticator app on your phone. There are several: Google, Microsoft and LastPass - perhaps more.
15:17 Garret Black (pantau) No phone here ... what now?
15:17 Larky (larkylouz) There are other ways to do it: a second email where you get a login code, is one common way.
15:18 Harley (yelarh) get one? a disposable one works
15:18 Sandy Burgess No authenticator app -> not MFA -> less account security
15:18 Larky (larkylouz) This is very common on other websites. I'd be surprised if you haven't run into it elsewhere.
15:18 Sandy Burgess You do not have to activate it
15:19 Harley (yelarh) banking online has it
15:19 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Banks usually have their own applications or gadgets
15:19 Harley (yelarh) yes
15:19 Larky (larkylouz) Yes, as well as medical sites like where I order my prescriptions online and where I can talk to my doctor via secure website/email
15:20 Harley (yelarh) vehicle insurance too
15:20 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I use my tablet for ID access for medical files and public services.
15:21 Larky (larkylouz) Does that clarify, Garret?
15:21 Larky (larkylouz) yes, there are messaging apps available that you can use on a computer or tablet.
15:22 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Note that some tablets can be used like smartphones
15:22 Larky (larkylouz) You can even get a dummy phone number to use on your tablet for messaging apps.
15:23 Ember (emberell) What will they think of next? ... Multi alt authentication? :-)
15:24 Ember (emberell) ... Altthentication?
15:24 Larky (larkylouz) So, long story short, LL rolled out MFA, it needs work, and they're working on it. Non-technical summary of a technical summary. Inara Pey's blog regularly covers such topics.
15:24 Larky (larkylouz) Griffthentication?
15:24 Ember (emberell) grins.
15:24 Larky (larkylouz) https://modemworld.me/
15:24 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Saliva sensor DNA ID
15:24 Larky (larkylouz) That's Inara's blog
15:25 Harley (yelarh) lol
15:25 Harley (yelarh) drop of blood to use a credit card
15:25 Sandy Burgess I rather like the idea. There is real money involved and if you can buy linden anybody who gets into your account can steal it
15:25 Larky (larkylouz) I had to chuckle at the teenager who bagged my groceries at the store the other day. He was so glad the mask ban had been lifted - now he can use facial recognition technology on his fancy phone!
15:25 Sandie Harbour They told my my DNA was backwards. My response was AND?
15:26 Larky (larkylouz) LOL
15:26 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) :-)
15:26 Ember (emberell) Oh, that's good, Sandie.
15:26 lovejoy2199 Sandie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:26 Gronk Seriman Ha!
15:26 Sandie Harbour I wish I could say I'm sorry but I'm not :P
15:26 Agatha Macbeth sets Sandie's turban alight
15:26 Larky (larkylouz) I think Sandie needs a Badass Punster tag. Although there are a few others I'd have to give it to. Not mentioning any names, you understand.
15:26 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) When one guy was told that he was identified by RNA he RAN
15:26 Katie (katie.canningham) That was gene-ous!
15:27 lovejoy2199 It has started
15:27 Harley (yelarh) yep
15:27 Katie (katie.canningham) cackles gleefully
15:27 Sandy Burgess cringes
15:28 Sandie Harbour I love those TLA's
15:28 Katie (katie.canningham) randomly decides to sneak down and scritch Bumble behind the ears then sneaks back to her seat
15:28 Gronk Seriman This brings new meaning to a cell phone.
15:28 Harperlass <Slides down in seat
15:28 Larky (larkylouz) considers asking again for questions, and including "puns" in the list of possibilities. "Questions? Comments? Discussion? Announcements? Puns? Really bad puns?'
15:28 Harperlass SMiles at Katie
15:29 Harperlass Bumble wags and Shadow looks jealous
15:29 Ember (emberell) We gotta break the chain of bad DNA puns.
15:29 Katie (katie.canningham) smiles back
15:29 Harley (yelarh) moans
15:29 Ember (emberell) They tend to spiral out of control.
15:29 Larky (larkylouz) Elfbiter, what is that thing you have?
15:29 Larky (larkylouz) In your hand?
15:29 Agatha Macbeth 0.0
15:30 Harley (yelarh) Not looking
15:30 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) steampunk lantern staff
15:30 Harperlass <Doesn't know but has been sitting still in case Elf takes umbrage and decides to torch her
15:30 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Old Steam Hunt find
15:30 Larky (larkylouz) Yes, Harper, it looks a bit dangerous
15:30 Harperlass lol
15:30 Larky (larkylouz) Okay, you lot. Further questions? Discussion?
15:30 Katie (katie.canningham) What do you think of the idea of having a monthly salon kind of like New Babbage's, but off-set time-wise so it'd be in addition to, and not competitive with, New Babbage's?
15:31 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Probably I would be sleeping at that time
15:31 Katie (katie.canningham) We could totally change the time out.
15:31 Harperlass I like it, I like their salons but often miss them due to bad timing would be nice to have another option
15:31 Larky (larkylouz) I believe that salon is a sort of educational discussion? I think that sort of thing could fit in well with Oxbridge's mission. What sort of topics would you like to address?
15:32 Larky (larkylouz) Is it something you'd like to organize?
15:32 Sandie Harbour puns and their proper use?
15:32 Harperlass they do music appreciation to, I like those
15:32 Katie (katie.canningham) I have ideas but unfortunately cannot organize my way out of a paper bag.
15:32 Katie (katie.canningham) sighs sadly
15:32 Larky (larkylouz) I frequently talk to people who tell me they come and sit at Oxbridge to sort inventory and listen to the classical music stream
15:33 Agatha Macbeth Both good reasons
15:33 Ember (emberell) I often chat as I work on notecards and such here too. Or help out where I can.
15:33 Harperlass <looks guilty...but it is also for company
15:33 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) In Victorian times Salon was also gathering used in anticipation of intentional carnal and clandestine occurrences
15:33 Harperlass and to keep up with things
15:33 Harperlass Elf you shock me
15:33 Larky (larkylouz) The Dean staff can offer some support, but we don't have the time to do the heavy lifting. Perhaps you can find someone who would partner with you?
15:33 Katie (katie.canningham) I thought it was the coffee.
15:34 Sandy Burgess And I sit and script secretly while pretending to chat with people
15:34 Katie (katie.canningham) How does one organize such a thing?
15:34 Larky (larkylouz) :^)
15:34 Harperlass I think you declare a time and topic and people show or not?
15:34 Harley (yelarh) carnal and clandestine occurrences ??
15:34 Harperlass that is Finnish for night time naughties
15:35 Sandy Burgess I'm sure he meant carnival
15:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) You tell them time and place, they promise to come and do not show up.
15:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) That's the usual procedure.
15:35 Katie (katie.canningham) Something for me to think more about!
15:35 Harperlass lol looks guilty again and looks again at her writer's prompt for the week
15:35 Katie (katie.canningham) The salon, not the carnivorous naughtiness
15:35 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) used intentional euphemisms
15:35 Harley (yelarh) =D
15:36 Larky (larkylouz) Well, I'd think you'd have to come up with and research topics, or find speakers with areas of expertise in that topic. And then learn how to do announcements, which is pretty easy. And find ways to publicize it. There are several calendars inworld, including a SL events calendar, the Aetherchrononauts steamworld calendar, one for Caledon, etc.
15:36 Harperlass If it helps I have been leading seminars in a work setting for the last few weeks and even when told it is mandatory we get 50%
15:36 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) In Victorian times many courtesans had their own salons...
15:37 Harperlass this is true and were reknowned for their intellectual skills as well as the horizontal kind
15:37 Katie (katie.canningham) there's lotsa stuff to talk about - corsets beyond the fashionable ones (shameless stealing from Bernadette Banner), ships, explorations, looking for lost expeditions, Beryl Markham....
15:37 Elle (saybera.drake) Elbereth leans over and whispers animatedly "There you go, Harley. Courtesans with carnival skills."
15:37 Katie (katie.canningham) well, they did a lot of juggling, I think.
15:37 Harley (yelarh) >>
15:38 Larky (larkylouz) laughs
15:38 Elle (saybera.drake) Elbereth churtles
15:38 Harperlass jiggling?
15:38 Katie (katie.canningham) that to
15:38 Katie (katie.canningham) too
15:38 Larky (larkylouz) Sometimes it takes two, too, to go to it.
15:38 Harperlass I think we've gone off the rails...I blame the puns
15:38 Sandie Harbour The best way to take out a carnival is to go for the juggler
15:38 Katie (katie.canningham) or we could talk about railways
15:39 Harley (yelarh) Yeah, speaking of rails, I see mental ones I'm jumping
15:39 Harperlass Hurls her juggling ball s at Sandie
15:39 Larky (larkylouz) has been entertaining herself during all this by picturing Wordsmith giggling while he posts this discussion transcript.
15:39 lovejoy2199 Someone said Railways?
15:39 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Talk about the medical problems caused by corsets?
15:39 Katie (katie.canningham) trains!! woot!
15:39 Harley (yelarh) Wow, look at the time
15:39 Harperlass yes those were an issue
15:39 Gronk Seriman is hungry. All this talk about caramel. Hot caramel, drizzled over ice cream. Mmmmmm....
15:39 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Fashion and physical damage is common combination
15:40 Larky (larkylouz) buttered popcorn!
15:40 Harperlass look at high heels
15:40 Katie (katie.canningham) see also foot-binding
15:40 Elle (saybera.drake) The things we do for love.
15:40 lovejoy2199 Scoop!!! There it is.
15:40 Harperlass but not while drizzling caramel
15:40 Harperlass Elle has hit upon the topic
15:41 Katie (katie.canningham) Who let Jaime Lannister in here?
15:41 Harperlass although it is out of season
15:41 Harley (yelarh) I'm behaving, I'm innocent (stares at Elle)
15:41 Elle (saybera.drake) Elbereth glances for lightning and then looks to the speaker, paying attention.
15:41 Sandie Harbour Interesting concept doing something to receive love
15:42 Sandie Harbour sad really
15:42 Katie (katie.canningham) For a salon, is there any year-bounds? no-earlier-than, no-later-than?
15:42 Sandy Burgess Dripping hot caramel is a lot hotter than dripping hot wax. Cannot recommend to use caramel for carnal carnival
15:42 Harperlass people try it all the time almost never works
15:42 Harperlass Sandy speaks wisely
15:43 Harperlass We probably need a cyber salon...often much of the conversation in these meetings strays to tech
15:43 Larky (larkylouz) In terms of when you can pull it together? Not specdifically, no. We need more traffic and interest in Oxbridge. Anything we can do to encourage that is good.
15:43 Harperlass but culture is good too
15:43 Harley (yelarh) I'm just waiting for the erotica lines to start popping up on the screen
15:44 Harperlass erotica seems to pop up frequently
15:44 Larky (larkylouz) You may want to consider whether you want to limit topics to those appropriate in a General area like Oxbridge, or whether you'd want to do it in Caledon, where there are fewer limits in that way.
15:44 Harley (yelarh) Would we need authentication for that?
15:45 Harperlass no but you'd need a secret handshake and a password
15:45 Harley (yelarh) lol
15:45 Katie (katie.canningham) Or a sliding window like a speak-easy
15:45 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) And initiation in the inner circles of Carbonaru
15:45 Harperlass that too
15:45 Harley (yelarh) (makes quick hand sign)
15:45 Harperlass and chanting in Linux
15:46 Katie (katie.canningham) awk and sed!
15:46 Sandy Burgess and shaking the right leg
15:46 Katie (katie.canningham) did I say that out loud? sorry
15:46 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) And pink candles inscribed with sacred glyphes of Orca tutu-dancing society.
15:46 Harperlass are they still around?
15:47 Katie (katie.canningham) oh that reminds me - what did the Caledon Victorian Expedition group used to do?
15:47 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) gives Wordsmith stomach-supporting belt for laughing support
15:47 Harperlass Ceremonial blessed Orca tututs are hard to come by
15:48 Larky (larkylouz) Is a tutut a way of learning how to wear a tutu?
15:48 Harperlass a tutut is a typo but a Tuk tuk is a vehicle
15:48 Katie (katie.canningham) King Tutut
15:48 Sandy Burgess If I had known we are allowed not to be serious at the Q&A I would have mad a joke or two in the past
15:48 Harperlass Him too
15:49 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) gives Wordsmith tar medicine for laugh-related coughing
15:50 Harperlass Gives Wordsmith a bottle of single malt to wash that down with
15:50 Gronk Seriman It's Wordsmith's best line... "Non-disruptive behavior is your own choice."
15:50 Katie (katie.canningham) I might ask Soup Johnson for advice, too - since he runs the WAYR gatherings.
15:51 Harperlass So Katie when is the first salon?
15:51 Harperlass LOL
15:51 Sandy Burgess Didn't know Wordsmith can laugh ... but than ... if I were endangered to coughing suffocation I wouldn't laugh too
15:51 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) When Soup is not sleeping
15:51 Katie (katie.canningham) In the words of the philosophers of "The Money Pit," two weeks!
15:51 Katie (katie.canningham) giggles
15:51 Harperlass perfect
15:51 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Only form of perfection is being perfectly as you are
15:52 Katie (katie.canningham) At least this isn't as mind-bogglingly impossible as trying to organize a skating competition.
15:52 Harperlass ooh profundity at this late hour
15:52 Katie (katie.canningham) shudders in horror at the memory
15:53 Ember (emberell) I tried to organize a skating competition once... Ended up with half the ice melted.
15:53 Ember (emberell) In the end, it was just barely enough to skate by
15:53 Larky (larkylouz) Wordsmith is quite a punster in his own right. And he is largely responsible for the Badass Fae tag. When someone dared me to change my display name to Badass Fae, he teased me for a solid year and even provided a reading on applying Baysian statistics to whether Han Solo was enough of a badass..... https://www.countbayesie.com/blog/2015/2/18/hans-solo-and-bayesian-priors
15:53 Katie (katie.canningham) Two weeks per se I'm not sure of, but I will do my best and ask many hopefully not-annoying questins on the way!
15:54 Larky (larkylouz) Feel free to IM me with any questions. If I don't know the answer, I can certainly find out.
15:54 Katie (katie.canningham) Good pun there! I ended up with half my brain melted, metaphorically speaking, though.
15:54 Sandy Burgess If you suppress the annoying questions you miss out on important answers
15:55 Katie (katie.canningham) True!
15:55 Harperlass most penetrating questions are annoying
15:55 Ember (emberell) No question is a bad question, it's just important to remember to ask kindly and with care.
15:55 Harperlass that is how you know they are important
15:55 Katie (katie.canningham) nods
15:55 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) There may not be stupid questions but there may be irrelevant questions.
15:55 Harperlass Nods very important to annoy with kindness....making a note
15:56 Katie (katie.canningham) also makes note
15:56 Sandy Burgess Actually I really like the badass fae title - event considered stealing it
15:57 Sandy Burgess ... even though I am not fae folk
15:57 Harperlass I used t be badass...now I'm just old and tired
15:57 Gronk Seriman I like the old Southern Belle tradition of saying "Bless his Heart!" when somebody says or does something stupid.
15:58 Sandy Burgess considers tickling Harpers badass out again
15:58 Katie (katie.canningham) I appreciate badassness.
15:58 Harperlass hehe that phrase covers a multitude of meanings
15:58 Katie (katie.canningham) And don't forget the most imporatant southern tradition - bring a casserole to those in any difficulty.
15:58 Sandy Burgess cocks her eye and grins
15:58 Elle (saybera.drake) Depends how "bless your heart" is used.
15:59 Harperlass also my favorite of my grandmother....GOd loves you....and then whispered Because no one else can
15:59 Larky (larkylouz) We are approaching the end of the hour. Anything else that needs to be said before we adjourn this pun fest and lively discussion?
15:59 Harperlass Casseroles are life sustaining and more importantly give two opportunities to gather dirt and gossip while seeming goodly
15:59 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Horioppia!
15:59 Katie (katie.canningham) YAY!!!!
15:59 Harperlass yay
16:00 Sandy Burgess My mom always said to me: We can only take you to places twice: the first and the last time
16:00 Harperlass hehe
16:00 Harperlass Thrown out od SUnday school at 5
16:01 Katie (katie.canningham) Oh my!
16:01 lovejoy2199 Well, not the shortest Q&A on record, Larky.
16:01 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Daigadaigaduu Daigaduuduu
16:01 Harperlass for asking difficult questions and refusing to color Jesus in peach tones
16:02 Katie (katie.canningham) Both are honorable.
16:02 Larky (larkylouz) LOL Good for you, Harper. Okay, I'm officially adjourning. If you wish to stay and talk, that's all fine, though
16:02 Gronk Seriman Thank you, Larky, everybody!
16:03 Katie (katie.canningham) Many thanks Larky!
16:03 Harperlass hehe thanks everyone this was fun
16:03 Katie (katie.canningham) I won't let you down!
16:03 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Okay, BEdtime and things like that
16:03 Katie (katie.canningham) And good day all!
16:03 Harperlass sorry we couldnt be seious
16:03 Sandy Burgess Good night everybody
16:03 Katie (katie.canningham) G'night Elf!
16:03 Harperlass night Elf! Sleep well
16:03 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Time will tell.
16:03 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Hold the fort.
16:03 Larky (larkylouz) take care, all. Thanks for coming
16:03 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Be seeing you