| 14:50 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Hi Lovejoy |
| 14:53 |
lovejoy2199 |
Back. |
| 14:53 |
lovejoy2199 |
Hello Larky |
| 14:54 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
I saw Carl come inworld. |
| 14:54 |
lovejoy2199 |
*smile* |
| 14:54 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
And there he is. Hi Carl |
| 14:54 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hi |
| 14:54 |
lovejoy2199 |
Hello Carl |
| 14:57 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I was running very late today. |
| 14:57 |
Carl Metropolitan |
At least I did not take a nap and sleep through the class like last week. |
| 14:59 |
lovejoy2199 |
Getting older, Carl. As i I have a lot to say. lol |
| 14:59 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hello Kaitlin |
| 14:59 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Welcome |
| 15:00 |
Kaitlin (jkaitlin) |
hello |
| 15:01 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hello to Gronk and Badger and Desdemona |
| 15:01 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Hi all |
| 15:01 |
Desdemona Darkstone |
Greetings |
| 15:01 |
badgerofzen |
hullo |
| 15:01 |
Gronk Seriman |
Good evening, everybody! |
| 15:02 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hello Jorge, Shalimir |
| 15:02 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hi Momoko |
| 15:02 |
Shali (shalimir) |
hello |
| 15:02 |
Momoko (momoko.market) |
Hello Carl |
| 15:02 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Momoko, you may want to try sitting again. The sit targets in our chairs here are a bit eccentric. |
| 15:03 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hello Elfbiter, Strandwind |
| 15:03 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Welcome Casdetra |
| 15:03 |
Jorge Serapis |
Aye. no need to fix them. :-/ |
| 15:03 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hi Agatha |
| 15:03 |
Agatha Macbeth |
/me waves |
| 15:03 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It is a little after three, so it is time to start! |
| 15:04 |
Strandwind |
Hello everyone. |
| 15:04 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Welcome to this Sunday's Oxbridge General Q&A. I'm here to answer any of your questions about Second Life, Caledon, Oxbridge, Steampunk, Linden Lab, Virtual Worlds, and anything vaguely related to any of the above. I'm also good at trivia questions. |
| 15:04 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If we don't know the answer, I can Google it. In other words, I know where to look, or at least can probably put you in touch with someone who does know the answer. |
| 15:04 |
Carl Metropolitan |
So welcome all. |
| 15:05 |
Casdetra |
ty |
| 15:05 |
Strandwind |
Thank you. |
| 15:05 |
Carl Metropolitan |
First some sad news. If you have not heard, Ebbe Altberg, Linden Lab's CEO died last week. |
| 15:05 |
Carl Metropolitan |
https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2021/06/ebbe-altberg-ceo-linden-lab-second-life.html |
| 15:06 |
Gronk Seriman |
Oh, no! |
| 15:06 |
Carl Metropolitan |
https://modemworld.me/2021/06/04/in-memoriam-ebbe-altberg/ |
| 15:06 |
Gronk Seriman |
I liked him. Oh, wait, he greenlighted Sansar. |
| 15:06 |
Professor Schonberg (paracelsus.schonberg) |
Sansar? |
| 15:07 |
Casdetra |
What is greenlighted? |
| 15:07 |
Carl Metropolitan |
How this will effect Linden Lab going forward, it will depend a lot on who the new owners of LL chose to succeed him. |
| 15:07 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Well, I can understand why LL tried Sansar. It just did not work. |
| 15:07 |
Jorge Serapis |
Greenlighted = approved. |
| 15:07 |
Casdetra |
ty |
| 15:07 |
Professor Schonberg (paracelsus.schonberg) |
But what is Sansar? |
| 15:08 |
Gronk Seriman |
He gave approval for a "second Second Life" that got bent towards VR goggles since they were the hot thing at the time. |
| 15:08 |
Sandy Burgess |
it was supposed to be SL 4.0 |
| 15:08 |
Carl Metropolitan |
From my point of view, having been here through every LL CEO since Phillip Rosedale, Ebbe was the best since Phillip. Certainly, Sansar was a mistake, but he did everything else pretty close to perfect. |
| 15:08 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
And Sansar required much more powerful graphics hardware than people could afford to have... |
| 15:09 |
Professor Schonberg (paracelsus.schonberg) |
Ah! Thank you all. |
| 15:09 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Yes. Sansar did not work out for Linden Lab and they sold it for pennies on the dollar to another company to get rid of the "deadweight" before they were acquired by the new ownership group. |
| 15:11 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Okay. Lets move on to questions. |
| 15:12 |
Carl Metropolitan |
You ask them. I answer them. Or someone does who types faster than me. |
| 15:12 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Anything about SL, Caledon, Virtual Worlds, etc. |
| 15:12 |
Jorge Serapis |
What's the current state of teachers/ tutors at oxb/ |
| 15:12 |
Jorge Serapis |
? |
| 15:12 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
We would need couple of more |
| 15:13 |
Carl Metropolitan |
That is a question for Wordsmith. Q&A With the Deans will be next Sunday. |
| 15:13 |
Carl Metropolitan |
He can answer it there. |
| 15:13 |
Jorge Serapis |
*makes a thumbs up* |
| 15:13 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I am not really part of Oxbridge management anymore. |
| 15:13 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
As far as I know, nothing has changed. I don't think he has much in the pipeline. |
| 15:13 |
Sandy Burgess |
Wordsmith has been busy and slow answering |
| 15:14 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
"Busy" is an understatement... |
| 15:14 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I think he needs a Dean of Education. So he only has to do two jobs rather than three, personally. |
| 15:14 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
We are working on an alternate tack for drawing new blood, by advertising for "content creators" rather than Professors. But he hasn't had time to edit that. |
| 15:14 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Isn't Samm his Dean of Education? |
| 15:15 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
And Ember is doing multiple jobs as well. |
| 15:15 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I did not know Ember was. I thought Ember was just Dean of Commons? |
| 15:15 |
Kaitlin (jkaitlin) |
i'm working on a class |
| 15:15 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
But yes, he's beyond swamped. He told me yesterday that he's close to getting the issues with the schedule fixed - possibly by the end of the week. That may free him up a bit for other stuff. |
| 15:16 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Great Kaitlin. What class will it be? |
| 15:16 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Ember is Dean of Commons. We're working together on the Faculty Kit, which we intend to update monthly. |
| 15:16 |
Kaitlin (jkaitlin) |
just basic building, probably a table and stool type of thing |
| 15:17 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Did Samm stop teaching Basic Building? |
| 15:17 |
Kaitlin (jkaitlin) |
no |
| 15:17 |
Sandy Burgess |
I could teach basic scripting on EU times |
| 15:18 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
No, she still does that and Buildarama |
| 15:18 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Talk to Wordsmith Sandy |
| 15:18 |
Carl Metropolitan |
We have nothing on EU time really |
| 15:18 |
Sandy Burgess |
tried ... |
| 15:18 |
Kaitlin (jkaitlin) |
sorry if I said something wrong, I won't do it then |
| 15:18 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Do talk to Word about these ideas. He'll be thrilled to hear it. |
| 15:18 |
Carl Metropolitan |
No. You did not say something wrong, Kaitlin! |
| 15:19 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Crap. She left. |
| 15:19 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
You didn't say anything wrong, Kaitlin. But do talk to Word. It's his job to deal with classes and the people who teach them. |
| 15:19 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Geez. I'll IM her. |
| 15:19 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I should have just slept through this week's session too. Damn. |
| 15:20 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Carl, you did nothing wrong. |
| 15:20 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Okay. Let's move on to another question. |
| 15:20 |
Shali (shalimir) |
what will happen to linden labs now? |
| 15:20 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Hello Phrynne |
| 15:21 |
Gronk Seriman |
/me smiles and waves to Phrynne. |
| 15:21 |
Phrynne |
Hello |
| 15:21 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
DEpends on what ideas the next CEO may have. |
| 15:21 |
Casdetra |
I scrolled back, don't see where anything was said wrong |
| 15:21 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hi Phrynne |
| 15:21 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
I wrote to her. |
| 15:21 |
Jorge Serapis |
From what i understand, Ebbe's passing was not unexpected. I'm sure they've got something and someone lined up. |
| 15:21 |
Casdetra |
Ok, Question.............. |
| 15:21 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It will continue on. |
| 15:22 |
Casdetra |
To do a class, Do you have to live in Caledon? or be here a year? What are the stipulations ? |
| 15:22 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
I'll send you the staffing notices I've been sending out, Casdetra. |
| 15:22 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I'm sure an announcement of a new CEO will be coming soon. Probably the owners want to give people and employees a week or so after Ebbe's untimely death. |
| 15:22 |
Casdetra |
ok Larky, Thank you |
| 15:22 |
Sandy Burgess |
to me too please |
| 15:23 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Casdetra, if it were up to me, I'd say "Know what you are talking about; have a pulse" Larky may know of other requirements |
| 15:23 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Living in Caledon is NOT a requirement. |
| 15:23 |
Casdetra |
Would it have to be specific to SL or online use? |
| 15:23 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Oxbridge has ZERO living in Caledon requirements for anything. |
| 15:24 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
LOL Carl. |
| 15:24 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It should be related to SL. |
| 15:24 |
Gronk Seriman |
I'm pretty sure if you can prove competence in the topic you will teach, and positively commit to a regularly scheduled class, you're in. |
| 15:24 |
Casdetra |
ty Larky, got it |
| 15:25 |
Phrynne |
I believe Wordsmith is also open to one-time classes or workshops; at least, he was last I spoke with him. |
| 15:25 |
Casdetra |
Thank you Gronk |
| 15:25 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
He is, indeed. |
| 15:26 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
And updates to the orientation or articles for the Guardian, as well. Like this one: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/guardian/2014/08/02/avatars-reload/ |
| 15:26 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Oh. I also have a complete Basic Texturing: Prims class with slides and text that we don't offer anymore if someone wants to try that. I don't think it would need much updating other than to make clear that that the content is limited to Prims and not Mesh. |
| 15:26 |
Professor Schonberg (paracelsus.schonberg) |
Oxbridge information needs to be updated, who coordinates the updates? |
| 15:26 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
I think someone asked specifically for texture thing this week. |
| 15:27 |
Carl Metropolitan |
That is handled by the Dean of Commons, Ember. |
| 15:27 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
I think Samm rotates her Basic class so that one session is building a hat and the next is texturing. But there may still be room for a more detailed class. Talk to Samm and Word. Professor, Word covers all of that. Feel free to run stuff by me, if you wish, but he is the last stop. |
| 15:28 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Ember was updating things today |
| 15:28 |
Jorge Serapis |
*needs to run away, so discreetly poofs* |
| 15:28 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Ember updates grounds. Does she work on the orientation, too? I thought Word was hoping to find someone to do that since Lindal left. |
| 15:28 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
TC Jorge |
| 15:29 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I don't know. I know Ember updates the faculty and staff notecards. |
| 15:29 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Yes, she does. |
| 15:29 |
Phrynne |
Wordsmith and I are continuing to work on putting the translations into the tutorial, as his time allows. |
| 15:29 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I think right now Orientation is one of Wordsmith's three full-time jobs. |
| 15:29 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Hi Porsha, welcome |
| 15:29 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Okay. Phrynne helps with that! Good. |
| 15:30 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Okay. Next question? |
| 15:32 |
Carl Metropolitan |
No question is a dumb question. There are always other people who likely don't know the answer. Some questions are Silly though. Mostly those where the answer is 42. |
| 15:32 |
Gronk Seriman |
/me smiles and waves to TomS. |
| 15:32 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Hiya Tom |
| 15:33 |
TomSTomson |
hi larky, Gronk |
| 15:33 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
/me thinks that even of there is no dumb questions, there may be irrelevant questions. |
| 15:33 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
I have a question.. |
| 15:33 |
Gronk Seriman |
What is the Answer to Life.....oh well. |
| 15:33 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Go Porsha! |
| 15:33 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Ask away. |
| 15:33 |
lovejoy2199 |
To live it. |
| 15:33 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
Thank you! How do you meet friends here? on SL I mean |
| 15:34 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I always met them through doing stuff. |
| 15:34 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
What 'stuff' |
| 15:35 |
Sandy Burgess |
Just run around and talk to people ... join groups or your interest ... go to workshops |
| 15:35 |
TomSTomson |
University Q&A sessions? |
| 15:35 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I am a bad person to answer that. I had an unusual SL career. |
| 15:35 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
Hmm OK i've done all that I must have bad breath :P |
| 15:35 |
Gronk Seriman |
Porsha, friendship in SL is not much different than RL. You explore, you meet people. You meet someone you click with. You offer friendship. I have way too many people I met once and never saw again. There is no good in "collecting" friends. |
| 15:35 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Clubs/dancing is a good one |
| 15:36 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
nods |
| 15:36 |
Sandy Burgess |
Dancing events never worked for me |
| 15:36 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Nor for me really. |
| 15:36 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
Me either |
| 15:36 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
I just had to tip a lot |
| 15:36 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I liked trivia contests. |
| 15:36 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Must be me then :p |
| 15:37 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
I met many of my first friends in the Photo Salon class here. Because it runs many different sessions and we shared our work, we got to know each other well. |
| 15:37 |
Sandy Burgess |
What does work is the 'common interest' group |
| 15:37 |
Carl Metropolitan |
And taking classes |
| 15:37 |
Gronk Seriman |
I have a pretty hard rule. I will not friend the first time we meet. If I see you around, and have a good feelinfg I'll see you again, then yes. |
| 15:38 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
(I meant tip the dance club not the dances that would be a whole different thing I guess) |
| 15:38 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Lots of places will have you tip the dancers, but that's to get them to take their clothes off :) |
| 15:38 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Indeed |
| 15:38 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
lol |
| 15:38 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
blushes |
| 15:38 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Well, we know what clubs you go to, Carl. I learn something new every day! |
| 15:39 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
haha |
| 15:39 |
Carl Metropolitan |
DJs and Hosts in normal clubs are often tipped though. |
| 15:39 |
Sandy Burgess |
/me nods - and you do need to purge your friends list regularly ... too many of them you never talk ... release them .... |
| 15:39 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
People hang out in the plaza at Oxbridge. That is partly to help folks who come through, but it definitely has a social element, as well. |
| 15:40 |
Carl Metropolitan |
And unless the sim is getting too full, that's encouraged |
| 15:40 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If the sim is getting to full, there will be an announcement and people can go to the stone circle in Oxbridge Village |
| 15:40 |
Sandy Burgess |
Plaza is good .... and it takes time ... not everybody is talkative and not everybody clicks |
| 15:41 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
And I have a tendency to send asocial elements to sea... |
| 15:41 |
TomSTomson |
There are places to dance that aren't clubs |
| 15:41 |
Sandy Burgess |
/me knows now why she has been swimming so much lately |
| 15:41 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
:-P :-) |
| 15:41 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
Where is that Tom? |
| 15:42 |
Carl Metropolitan |
They hit the water near the troll bridge and the sharks :) |
| 15:42 |
TomSTomson |
one place i like is called Hypnotic romance. |
| 15:42 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Like events that different groups offer, too |
| 15:42 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If you join the Independent State of Caledon group, you will receive a steady stream of Group Notices of social events. |
| 15:43 |
Shali (shalimir) |
how do we join that group? |
| 15:43 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
Thank you Carl |
| 15:43 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
I can send you invites to ISC. Please IM me. |
| 15:43 |
Shali (shalimir) |
thank you. |
| 15:44 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Ask for an invite from anyone even vaguely associated with Caledon :) |
| 15:44 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Or you can rent land here. That's the expensive way :) |
| 15:45 |
Casdetra |
Is there a Land Management class, or one planned in the future? |
| 15:45 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
I bet it is fun though |
| 15:46 |
Shali (shalimir) |
what is the best way to upload mesh to sl? |
| 15:46 |
Carl Metropolitan |
We don't currently have a Land Management class. I would talk to Wordsmith to request one. |
| 15:46 |
Casdetra |
ty |
| 15:47 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Shali, do you mean uploading mesh you have created? |
| 15:47 |
Shali (shalimir) |
yes. |
| 15:47 |
Carl Metropolitan |
The first thing to do is to export it as a .dae file. |
| 15:47 |
Shali (shalimir) |
from blender |
| 15:47 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Then you go to the Build menu, and the Upload sub-menu |
| 15:48 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Select "Mesh Model" from there. |
| 15:48 |
Carl Metropolitan |
That will give you a window to browse your hard drive to find your mesh model (as a .dae file; it will not recognize a .blend file) |
| 15:49 |
Shali (shalimir) |
oooh I see. |
| 15:49 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Then click on it to get the mesh upload screen. |
| 15:49 |
Carl Metropolitan |
When you get to that screen you have a lot of choices |
| 15:49 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Let me send you to a link to a web page going over those. |
| 15:49 |
Shali (shalimir) |
ok great! |
| 15:49 |
Shali (shalimir) |
I had not been successful |
| 15:49 |
Shali (shalimir) |
thank you for answering |
| 15:50 |
Carl Metropolitan |
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/Uploading_a_multi-face_mesh |
| 15:51 |
Shali (shalimir) |
tyvm |
| 15:51 |
Carl Metropolitan |
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/Upload_Model_UI_reference |
| 15:51 |
Gronk Seriman |
/me remembers importing an avatar made in MakeHuman. I wound up looking like a Star Trek teleporter accident. |
| 15:51 |
Shali (shalimir) |
:) |
| 15:51 |
Carl Metropolitan |
There is a lot of stuff that can go wrong. |
| 15:51 |
Sandy Burgess |
/me laughs ... why didn't you change back? :P |
| 15:52 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If your model is solid where it should not be, it is likely an issue with the physic model |
| 15:52 |
Shali (shalimir) |
oooh murdered with words |
| 15:52 |
Carl Metropolitan |
You will have to make a simplified version with the physics you need. |
| 15:52 |
Sandy Burgess |
/me slaps her hands over her mouth ... sorry couldn't let that one pass |
| 15:52 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If your model randomly has clear bits where there should be solid mesh, you probably have some normals reversed. |
| 15:53 |
Carl Metropolitan |
If your model takes up way to many prims (land impact), you will need to work on simplifying it. |
| 15:53 |
Shali (shalimir) |
:( |
| 15:54 |
Carl Metropolitan |
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Making_Mesh_Physics |
| 15:54 |
Shali (shalimir) |
thank you |
| 15:54 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Another good resource: wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/FAQ |
| 15:55 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Okay. We are running close to the end of the class. Any final questions? |
| 15:55 |
Strandwind |
No, thank you. |
| 15:56 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
All good thank you |
| 15:56 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Thank you all for coming. |
| 15:56 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Thank you, Carl. |
| 15:56 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Thanks Carl |
| 15:56 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Remember next week at this time is Q&A With the Deans |
| 15:56 |
Phrynne |
Thank you, Carl |
| 15:56 |
Larky (larkylouz) |
Take care everyone. |
| 15:56 |
Porsha (colelascotta) |
Thank you so much and everyone else too |
| 15:56 |
Desdemona Darkstone |
Thank you Carl |
| 15:56 |
lovejoy2199 |
Since I learn so much to day Carl, I am glad you didn't over sleep. |
| 15:56 |
Carl Metropolitan |
You can ask Wordsmith, Andrea, and Ember some of those questions I had to say "?" to! |
| 15:56 |
Gronk Seriman |
Thank you, Carl! |
| 15:56 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Goodnight! |
| 15:57 |
Desdemona Darkstone |
Good nighz |
| 15:57 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Thank you Badger! |
| 15:57 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Bedtime for me' |
| 15:57 |
Strandwind |
Thanks to everyone, bye and take care. |
| 15:57 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Hold the fort |
| 15:57 |
Casdetra |
Thanks for a good class |
| 15:57 |
lovejoy2199 |
Fort holding mode. |
| 15:57 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I'm off to do the transcript. Goodnight! |