| 14:31 |
Phrynne |
hello Lovejoy |
| 14:31 |
lovejoy2199 |
Hello Dean |
| 14:31 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Welcome, Josain and lovejoy. |
| 14:32 |
lovejoy2199 |
Hello Chancellor |
| 14:44 |
Phrynne |
hello Dey |
| 14:45 |
deyanira Yalin |
Hi Jarvinen and Phrynne and every one |
| 14:45 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Welcome, Dey |
| 14:45 |
deyanira Yalin |
what kind of questions are we allowed |
| 14:45 |
deyanira Yalin |
;o) |
| 14:46 |
Phrynne |
We have reports first, then questions. |
| 14:46 |
deyanira Yalin |
;o) |
| 14:47 |
deyanira Yalin |
is at 3? |
| 14:47 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Questions on Oxbridge, Caledon, general SL, and sometimes beyond. |
| 14:48 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Yes, starts at 3p. Still time for tea, coffee, or a class of wine. |
| 14:48 |
deyanira Yalin |
i like the wine better |
| 14:49 |
deyanira Yalin |
but i have coffee ;o) |
| 14:49 |
deyanira Yalin |
well i will be back then |
| 14:51 |
lovejoy2199 |
Scales!!!!!! |
| 14:52 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hello everyone. |
| 14:53 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Welcome, Carl |
| 14:53 |
Phrynne |
hi Carl |
| 14:53 |
lovejoy2199 |
Hello Chancellor Emeritus |
| 14:53 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Hiya, Gronk |
| 14:54 |
lovejoy2199 |
Cute Dean Jones. Cute |
| 14:54 |
Gronk Seriman |
Greeting, Wordsmith, everybody! |
| 14:54 |
lovejoy2199 |
Hello Gronk |
| 14:56 |
|
Gronk Seriman smiles and waves to Lovejoy |
| 14:59 |
Kara2016 |
Smiles even brighter. |
| 15:00 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Hi Deya. |
| 15:00 |
Kara2016 |
,..looks at the wanted posters.. |
| 15:01 |
deyanira Yalin |
Hi Carl and every one and of course Jarvinen and Phrynne again |
| 15:01 |
|
Agatha Macbeth examines the Chancellor's legs |
| 15:02 |
deyanira Yalin |
lol |
| 15:02 |
deyanira Yalin |
are they white? |
| 15:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Agatha, please let Phrynne know that I found summer. |
| 15:02 |
Phrynne |
?? |
| 15:02 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Can't you IM her? |
| 15:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Welcome to this week's Caledon Oxbridge Deans' Q&A. This is an open meeting; |
| 15:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
all are welcome apart from those who intend to misbehave in a disruptive manner. |
| 15:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Non-disruptive misbehavior is at your discretion. |
| 15:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Transcripts will be posted after the meeting. |
| 15:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
at http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna/qna_index.php |
| 15:03 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Phrynne, can you start? |
| 15:03 |
Phrynne |
I have no report. |
| 15:03 |
|
Phrynne looks back at Word. |
| 15:03 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
That was brief. |
| 15:04 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
We were briefed |
| 15:04 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Andrea, have anything for today? |
| 15:04 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Welcome, Myst |
| 15:04 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
The Fundraiser dance will be on the 24th. |
| 15:05 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
(welcome Elo) |
| 15:05 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
We will be at the Governors mansion |
| 15:05 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
There should be a notecard in a notice to the Oxbridge groups. |
| 15:06 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
PLease feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions. |
| 15:07 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
I hope to add some more to the event. |
| 15:07 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
If you have anything to add to the event please let me know |
| 15:09 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
the art show is still up and running |
| 15:09 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
More has been added recently |
| 15:09 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
so feel free to drop by |
| 15:10 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
It will run until the end of the month. |
| 15:10 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
If you would like to add to it. PLease contact me |
| 15:10 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
Plenty of room left. |
| 15:10 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
looks back to word |
| 15:11 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
LM, Andrea? |
| 15:11 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
the art show Caledon SouthEnd (122,46,23) |
| 15:12 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Thank you, Andrea |
| 15:13 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Well, I finally got caught up on visitor statistics. The weekly and monthly summaries are at http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/statistics/index.php |
| 15:14 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Behind me, generated from the weekly summaries, is a graph of the weekly visitor count versus week. |
| 15:14 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Was there a data collection error in March? |
| 15:14 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The gaps aren't real; data loss from the script going down. |
| 15:15 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I thought that looked strange. |
| 15:15 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The peaks are from the advent calendars. |
| 15:16 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Yay |
| 15:16 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Quite noticeable peaks |
| 15:17 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
So overall, the usage of COU hasn't gone down all *that* much. |
| 15:17 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
The weekly data that Questi sends out looks much worse to me. |
| 15:17 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It has somewhat, however. |
| 15:18 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
It waxes and vanes. |
| 15:19 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The first week and first day values were originally tuned to give approximately the same numbers as Questi's values. |
| 15:20 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Marion is measuring different things. Word's data is measuring all visitors broken down by "General", "First Week", and "First Day"; Marion is measuring specifically new avatars. The Blue and Yellow parts of the bar in Word's chart. |
| 15:20 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
But there have been times in the recent past in which he either didn't have data or had questionable data and what I had looked fine. |
| 15:21 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
You can see the actual values for those in the weekly summaries on the website. |
| 15:21 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Also languages, avatar age distribution, and hour of day. |
| 15:22 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I'm planning on adding the timeline graph to the statistics index page, but I'll leave this one up in here for the week for those not here, who read the transcript, and want to see the graph. |
| 15:23 |
Gronk Seriman |
The Hour of Day interests me. I see very few new people come through any more at the usual times I can come. |
| 15:23 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
Evenings are often dead quiet. |
| 15:24 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
With that, open for questions, comments, confusions, etc. |
| 15:24 |
Kara2016 |
To me, New years eve and day are quiet at Oxbridge. |
| 15:25 |
Gronk Seriman |
Is it possible we are getting more daytime traffic, or more Euro visitors now? |
| 15:25 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
STill hosting the WRiters' Meeting in Thursdays.... |
| 15:26 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Still 11am Elf, correct? |
| 15:26 |
deyanira Yalin |
;o) |
| 15:27 |
Samm Florian |
Dunno if folks know about Build-a-rama; it's Saturday nights at 7pm SLT. |
| 15:27 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Take a look on the website at the July summary. We get visitors at all hours. |
| 15:27 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Say something about what that is Samm. |
| 15:28 |
Samm Florian |
Sure! |
| 15:28 |
Samm Florian |
So the participants get a word, and have 40 minutes to build somethin' based on that word. |
| 15:28 |
Samm Florian |
It's not a contest, just a chance to build and see what other folks make. |
| 15:28 |
deyanira Yalin |
that is fun to play |
| 15:29 |
Samm Florian |
Yes! :) |
| 15:29 |
Samm Florian |
Spectators are welcome too. |
| 15:29 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
It's fun to watch, too, Deyanira |
| 15:29 |
deyanira Yalin |
totally i enjoy both |
| 15:29 |
Samm Florian |
Though folks of all skill levels are welcome to build too. |
| 15:30 |
Samm Florian |
This is the SLURL for the stadium if you wanna save it. Caledon Oxbridge Village (41,28,1390) |
| 15:30 |
deyanira Yalin |
tks |
| 15:31 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Is Oxbridge still on the "Feeder" rotation at the current LL's Social Island's exit area? If we dropped off, it would be good to try to get back on that list. |
| 15:31 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
I have met several newcomers who have asked how to get back to Social Island. |
| 15:32 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
I don't recommended it. |
| 15:32 |
Carl Metropolitan |
It is not bad. Social Island is a major improvement over previous LL attempts to train new users. |
| 15:32 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
And it seems that London sends people our way as well. |
| 15:32 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
With their group tag on. |
| 15:32 |
Carl Metropolitan |
They even implemented a few ideas we should consider stealing :) |
| 15:33 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
I don't know Carl. At once point someone came by about putting us as a destination from themed starter islands. We were supposed to go on the list from a sci-fi themed starter island. |
| 15:33 |
Agatha Macbeth |
That sounds good |
| 15:34 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Since we met all of the requirements, I responded affirmatively. |
| 15:34 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Part of the confusion may be that Caledon itself is listed in the Destination Guide as a new user friendly location, but the SLURL there takes people to Oxbridge. Unless Desmond set that up deliberately, it is the kind of confusion between Caledon and Oxbridge I think we are trying to avoid. |
| 15:35 |
Samm Florian |
What other entry point would ya want fer Caledon? |
| 15:35 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Hi Jan, Welcome |
| 15:35 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Caledon has been in the destination guide longer than I have been in SL. |
| 15:35 |
Carl Metropolitan |
About halfway down the page here: https://secondlife.com/destinations/howto/newbie/2 |
| 15:35 |
Phrynne |
How about the visitors' center in Caledon Prime? |
| 15:36 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Yes, but the estate as a whole is in the guide as a "Newcomer Friendly Spot", but points to us. That just seems like a confusion between the estate as a whole and Oxbridge. |
| 15:36 |
Samm Florian |
Mebbe, but Oxbridge typically has more folks around. I dunno if that's important. |
| 15:36 |
Samm Florian |
Oh OK, yer sayin' that Caledon shouldn't be listed as "newbie-friendly", just Oxbridge. |
| 15:36 |
Samm Florian |
That makes sense. |
| 15:37 |
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Agatha Macbeth nods |
| 15:37 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Oh. And if you are inclined go to that link, login to the SL website, and check "Like" for Caledon. Apparently that matters now. |
| 15:37 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It is a confusion, but we are likely the best spot for the traffic. |
| 15:37 |
|
Carl Metropolitan hates facebook. |
| 15:38 |
Samm Florian |
Plus that description of "50 regions" is kinda…out of date. |
| 15:38 |
Samm Florian |
We call it Faceboob now. |
| 15:38 |
Agatha Macbeth |
:P |
| 15:38 |
Samm Florian |
We decided last night on ISC. |
| 15:38 |
|
Samm Florian giggles. |
| 15:38 |
Agatha Macbeth |
50 regions of grey |
| 15:39 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Unfortunately the Finnish joke about facebook does not work in English :-) |
| 15:39 |
Carl Metropolitan |
But only above 512 meters. |
| 15:39 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Other questions or topics? |
| 15:40 |
Samm Florian |
Is there any possibility of changin' the newcomer-friendly listing from Caledon to Oxbridge? |
| 15:40 |
deyanira Yalin |
well i have one and is going to sound dumb |
| 15:40 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Let us be the judges of that. |
| 15:40 |
deyanira Yalin |
what is the diff between caledon and oxbridge i thought it was only one |
| 15:40 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Dey, the only dumb question is the one unasked that needed to be asked. |
| 15:41 |
deyanira Yalin |
thank you |
| 15:41 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Oxbridge rents the sim from Caledon. |
| 15:41 |
|
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) thinks there may be _irrelevant_ questions but not really dumb questions. |
| 15:41 |
Phrynne |
Oxbridge is one region; Caledon is many. |
| 15:41 |
deyanira Yalin |
;o) |
| 15:41 |
Samm Florian |
Caledon is th'whole micronation, Oxbridge is th'University. |
| 15:41 |
Carl Metropolitan |
We are supported by the Caledon community—and others, as well. |
| 15:41 |
Samm Florian |
Oxbridge is way more organized. |
| 15:41 |
deyanira Yalin |
wow abut time for me to know that |
| 15:42 |
deyanira Yalin |
thank you |
| 15:42 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The sim is Caledon Oxbridge, but Oxbridge pays tier to Des Shang who owns Caledon. The one exception is the library parcel. |
| 15:42 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Oh? |
| 15:42 |
deyanira Yalin |
mmm |
| 15:43 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The library parcel is "owned" by JJ Drinkwater -- owned in the sense of separately rented from Des. |
| 15:43 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Interesting |
| 15:43 |
deyanira Yalin |
totaly |
| 15:43 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
And some griefers know that and try to flee there. |
| 15:43 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Is that why stuff can be rezzed there? |
| 15:44 |
Phrynne |
It can be, but it's returned to the owner in a few minutes. |
| 15:44 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
While there is a library management group, it has essentially been useless because the library parcel is not deeded to the group. |
| 15:44 |
Phrynne |
same as on campus. |
| 15:44 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Hm |
| 15:44 |
Samm Florian |
Why not? An oversight, or is there a reason? |
| 15:45 |
Samm Florian |
I mean the "not deeded" thing. |
| 15:46 |
Samm Florian |
Ooh, must be a mystery. :D |
| 15:46 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Complex thing |
| 15:46 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
JJ owns the parcel and would have to deed it. JJ is also supposed to be leaving SL st some near future. We have mentioned the part about deeding but no action has yet to be taken in that direction. |
| 15:47 |
Gronk Seriman |
The Library System collapse and rebirth has been quite rocky, from what I can tell. |
| 15:47 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Soup is also kind of frustrated... |
| 15:47 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I thought that he had found people to adopt and maintain the various parts of the Library. |
| 15:47 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Is that not the case for the Oxbridge branch? |
| 15:47 |
|
Agatha Macbeth ponders frustrated soup |
| 15:48 |
ELO (eloelephant) |
Soup? |
| 15:48 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
People have been found to support different library places. |
| 15:48 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Soup Johnson, librarymancer |
| 15:48 |
Samm Florian |
Not t'be confused with Sauce. |
| 15:48 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Has anyone been found to adopt the Oxbridge Branch specifically? Or is that still up in the air? |
| 15:49 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Oxbridge is not a concern |
| 15:50 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And, somewhere along the line in the not very distant past, windows have disappeared from one level of the library. |
| 15:50 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Oh |
| 15:50 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Why? If no one is in charge there, and it is not Oxbridge land, it is a natural refuge point for griefers. |
| 15:51 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
I understand some people have ejection rights at least |
| 15:51 |
Phrynne |
Anyone who is an estate manager can kick people from the Library parcel. |
| 15:51 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
And JJ issued a memo on who runs the library, because of the rejection of help offered. |
| 15:53 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Not being group deeded and thus not having parcel rights makes it more complicated, but estate rights can be used to remove persons and object. |
| 15:53 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Yes, but if JJ is no longer running the library, that doesn't really apply. He needs to find a successor for the Oxbridge library branch or return the land to Oxbridge before he departs. |
| 15:53 |
Phrynne |
Scandaroon Beck is running all of the Caledon Library System at this point, as far as I know. |
| 15:54 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
But doesn't yet necessarily own the parcels. |
| 15:54 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
It is a complex matter involving a complex person. |
| 15:55 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Ow |
| 15:55 |
|
Gronk Seriman buries her face in her hands. "What a mess!" |
| 15:55 |
Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) |
Just a note, the fundraiser dance is 4 hours this time. I know there are several things going on. hopefully anyone who wants to come can find the time. The donations go to the operation of the university here. |
| 15:55 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Never mind. This is going to be drama, isn't it. If JJ actually leaves SL, and does not put in place a successor to own and manage the Oxbridge Branch, then that is the time to worry about it I guess. Sorry to have gone down this rabbit trail. |
| 15:56 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Follow the white rabbit |
| 15:56 |
Mowgli Soy |
/raises hand for a question |
| 15:56 |
|
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) grabs the rabbit by the pocket watch chains |
| 15:56 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
The white rabbit was Phrynne. She came back by return mail. |
| 15:56 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Mowgli? |
| 15:56 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Woot |
| 15:57 |
Mowgli Soy |
Forgive me for returning to the Oxbridge library parcel discussion, but is there anything specific there that`s unattainable once Mr. Drinkwater leaves? I assume the building can be replicated, and Mr. Shang himself can sell the land to Oxb. |
| 15:58 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
That's a big job! |
| 15:58 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
We would prefer to work with the library team successor and still have the library. |
| 15:59 |
Gronk Seriman |
Don't forget all the media stored in the Library, too. |
| 15:59 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Agreed |
| 15:59 |
deyanira Yalin |
excused me .. can some one give to subhamkumar the main landing of caledon? not sure if i say this right |
| 15:59 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Some of that media is outgoing links |
| 15:59 |
Mowgli Soy |
True, but again, is there anything there that can`t be replicated? |
| 15:59 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
will do deyanira |
| 15:59 |
deyanira Yalin |
thank you |
| 16:00 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Perhaps the building |
| 16:00 |
Mowgli Soy |
.. which can be replicated. |
| 16:01 |
Gronk Seriman |
...by somebody who knows the building ans has plenty of skill and time. |
| 16:01 |
Mowgli Soy |
Basically, I guess I`m seeing that while it may be a bit of a job, the library can be rebuilt under Oxb`s ownership. |
| 16:01 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Phrynne and I have saved most of the information content just in case. But it is too soon to decide that things will become unavailable. |
| 16:01 |
Mowgli Soy |
Understood, and thanks. |
| 16:02 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Part of the reason JJ holds tightly is that he wants to ensure that the library is run by librarians. |
| 16:02 |
Phrynne |
Also, the Whitehorn Library in Victoria City contains a master collection of content of all the Caledon Libraries. The difference is that each library in Caledon has a different collection specific to its location. |
| 16:02 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Good for him |
| 16:03 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Any other questions or topics? |
| 16:03 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
hearing none, |
| 16:03 |
deyanira Yalin |
what is for diner |
| 16:04 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
This meeting is adjourned. |
| 16:04 |
Phrynne |
thank you for coming. |
| 16:04 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Thank you all for coming and participating. |
| 16:04 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
thank you, Deans. |
| 16:04 |
Gronk Seriman |
Thank you, Deans! |
| 16:04 |
Carl Metropolitan |
I would suggest Victoria City as a main landing point for Caledon as a whole, Deya |
| 16:04 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Bedtime for me. |
| 16:04 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Let me get you a LM |
| 16:04 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
Caledon Victoria City (129,127,2002) |
| 16:04 |
deyanira Yalin |
thank you ;o) |
| 16:04 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Hold the fort. |
| 16:04 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
A transcript will be posted. |
| 16:04 |
Badass Fae (larkylouz) |
Just had to give it to someone else. :^) |
| 16:05 |
deyanira Yalin |
tc Jarvinen, Carl, Phrynne, Elfb, and every one else |
| 16:05 |
Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) |
Be seeing you |
| 16:05 |
deyanira Yalin |
hugs Carl and Elfb and Jarvinen |
| 16:06 |
|
Gronk Seriman has improved her fort-holding skills. Uses both her hands AND feet! |
| 16:06 |
Carl Metropolitan |
Bye. Off to work in the freebie mines again. |
| 16:06 |
Wordsmith Jarvinen |
Join us next week, for the exciting continuation of Q&A |
| 16:06 |
Agatha Macbeth |
Same bat time... |
| 16:06 |
|
Jan Stroikavskoi waves farewell :) |
| 16:07 |
Gronk Seriman |
...same bat channel. |