Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2021-12-25

14:34 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hello, Lovejoy and Larky
14:35 Larky (larkylouz) Hiya Word
14:52 Larky (larkylouz) Hi Andrea
14:52 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) hi
14:54 lovejoy2199 Back. Greetings everyone. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
14:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi, Andrea
14:56 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) hi Wordsmith
14:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Elfbiter, Sandie, and Garret
14:56 Garret Black (pantau) Hello, you all
14:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi, Ember
14:56 lovejoy2199 Hello Garret
14:56 lovejoy2199 Hello Ember
14:57 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) ember hi
14:57 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) sandie, mr lj and elfbiter
14:57 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) garret
14:57 lovejoy2199 Hello Andrea
14:57 Garret Black (pantau) Hello again ....
14:59 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) gronk
14:59 Gronk Seriman Good evening Andrea, everybody!
14:59 lovejoy2199 Hello Gronk
14:59 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) i love how this machine i'm using today...gives me group chat notices from sept
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Ms Gronk, Sandy, Lyban, and Soup
15:00 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) hi soup
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Kara
15:00 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) Kara2016 gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:00 lovejoy2199 turns down the music stream as the meeting is about to start.
15:00 Ember (emberell) Thank you for your donation, Kara ❤
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen ty, Kara. Much appreciated
15:01 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) ty kara
15:01 Kara2016 Greetings everyone.
15:01 lovejoy2199 Hello Kara
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen And it's time.
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome to this week's Caledon Oxbridge Deans' Q&A. This is an open meeting;
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen all are welcome apart from those who intend to misbehave in a disruptive manner.
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Non-disruptive misbehavior is at your discretion.
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Transcripts will be posted after the meeting.
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen at http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna/qna_index.php
15:02 Garret Black (pantau) LOL
15:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen Ember, have anything for us today?
15:03 Ember (emberell) Nothing much, besides to announce that by the end of this year/early January I'll be putting out a new copy of the faculty kit. Please remember to update documents especially including the foreign language stuff, that Larky has been working very hard to maintain
15:03 Sandy Burgess notices the speech has been refined ... does not feel excluded at once
15:03 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) ty Larky and Ember
15:03 Larky (larkylouz) :^)
15:03 Ember (emberell) And as usual I do want to invite prospective tutors/helpers to reach out to me or other taff about joining in to help users new and old
15:04 Ember (emberell) That's all from me
15:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thank you, Ember
15:04 Soup Jonson +*✰*+*'*•.¸ APPLAUSE APPLAUSE ¸.•*'+*✰*+
15:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen Andrea?
15:04 Larky (larkylouz) muses that Ember might be pulling Taff-eee
15:04 Ember (emberell) Staff
15:04 Larky (larkylouz) ;^)
15:04 Ember (emberell) Apologies, I had a rough night
15:05 Soup Jonson It was a good speech Ember!
15:05 Larky (larkylouz) Just any pun opp available!
15:05 Sandy Burgess Have been lurking for one too ... not really so far
15:05 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Hmm hi. nothing really from me on fundraising. We will have the bi weekly event next Sunday. Might be spring or summer related. I think everyone may be tired of winter, or at least we will have a break from winter. No plans for the first of the year at this point.
15:06 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) I will let you know in group notices if that changes
15:06 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) back to you Wordsmith
15:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thanks, Andrea.
15:06 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) most welcome
15:08 Wordsmith Jarvinen Everyone might want to look at recent ISC group notices. Scandaloon posted an object that contains the entire Caledon library collections.
15:08 Gronk Seriman OMG!
15:08 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome Agatha and Harper
15:08 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) waves
15:08 Harperlass Hi sorry got distracted
15:09 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, that's a completely amazing object. The entire collection from all of the Caledon libraries.
15:09 Garret Black (pantau) What's "ISC", pls?
15:09 Lyban ^
15:09 Garret Black (pantau) ISC, I mean
15:09 Ember (emberell) Independent State of Caledon - the group that residents of CAledon belong to, generally
15:10 Garret Black (pantau) Thanks
15:10 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) is the library system closing?
15:10 Wordsmith Jarvinen And the object itself is a miniature of the Whitehorn library in Victoria City. (only 4 LI)
15:10 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Highly
15:10 lovejoy2199 will have to check this out.
15:11 highlyadjective Hello Wordsmith, Elf, Soup, everyone
15:11 Soup Jonson Hello!
15:12 Wordsmith Jarvinen And also related to libraries, the Oxbridge library is now group owned, which conveys group parcel powers to Ember and myself, making it a little easier to manage ... problems.
15:12 Ember (emberell) Wandering books, etc.
15:12 Larky (larkylouz) :^)
15:12 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) Books wander?
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen Or litter
15:13 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) wonders where they wander
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen People get a book and then discard it in the library
15:13 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) the monster book of monster get loose again?
15:13 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) FLoating library collections? :-)
15:13 highlyadjective takes two cough drops
15:13 Harperlass Hopefully the library will be a safe space...I read a disturbing news article today about librarians in Texas feeling threatened to remove books
15:14 Harperlass I thought of Soup actually and wondered if he was part of the group forming in support of librarians
15:15 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) USA is unfortunately famous for book removal demands from libraries....
15:15 Wordsmith Jarvinen Better they keep them and take it to court, but that's not for now.
15:15 Harperlass well yes, not a new things sadly, but it seems particularly virulent at the moment
15:16 Wordsmith Jarvinen Oxbridge, thanks to Andrea, is well into the financial black. Enough so that I expect to ride out RFL season without concern.
15:16 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) and my team
15:16 Gronk Seriman So what is the status of the Oxbridge Library? Is it still part of the Caledon Library system? Is there still a librarian?
15:16 Soup Jonson Way to go Andrea!
15:17 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) Soup Jonson gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:17 Ember (emberell) Thank you so much for your donation, Soup
15:17 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, there is an Oxbridge Library Management group that the Caledon librarians own and that Ember and I are members of.
15:17 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) highlyadjective gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:18 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) We will still need donations. we just feel we have a good buffer given current events and RFL
15:18 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) thank you all for your support
15:18 Sandie Harbour How much do you need?
15:18 Wordsmith Jarvinen The change was from personal ownership by JJ Drinkwater to group ownership, so that conveyed group powers would work.
15:19 Gronk Seriman Ah. OK.
15:19 highlyadjective Logical.
15:19 Wordsmith Jarvinen Still very much part of the Caledon Library system. Before the only powers we had on that parcel were the Estate Manager powers.
15:20 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) And more people can kick griefers from the library parcel.
15:20 Garret Black (pantau) Did I miss the definition of "RFL"?
15:20 Ember (emberell) RFL stands for Relay For Life
15:20 Ember (emberell) It's a yearly event raising funds for Cancer research and the like
15:20 Garret Black (pantau) That's US only, correct?
15:21 lovejoy2199 No. World Wide
15:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen Sandie, I figure this on a 13 week (91 day) basis. Assuming 8 classes per week, we spend about 101k $L per quarter.
15:22 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) People have been generous to us in the past with their lindens. Every little bit helps us pay the bills
15:22 Wordsmith Jarvinen If we get back up to 10 classes per week, it's about 107k $L per quarter
15:23 Harperlass is that mostly on land fees?
15:24 Wordsmith Jarvinen Speaking of which, we have Nance Clowe's Event promotion class, Ember now teaching basic building, and Samm's newly added Advanced Building.
15:24 Wordsmith Jarvinen That's all on the schedule on the wall in here.
15:25 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Ember does not bite nor does she swallow whole. Just attend the class.
15:25 Ember (emberell) Advanced building is an excellent follow-up to Basic Building for those wanting to really flex their build window
15:26 highlyadjective makes a note
15:26 Wordsmith Jarvinen The statistics page on the website is now up to date: http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/statistics/index.php
15:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen And the graphs on the wall behind me, are fresh as of this morning
15:27 Gronk Seriman smells the fresh paint.
15:27 Garret Black (pantau) LOL
15:27 Harperlass is there a breakdown of what the expenditures go to?
15:28 Gronk Seriman It does seem like the gold tops of the bars are gradually decreasing.
15:29 highlyadjective If I remember, one shrinkage was that Linden areas stopped promoting Caledon
15:29 Wordsmith Jarvinen 74,750 $L per quarter is tier paid to Des. Class instructor stipends at 250 $L per class taught make up the balance of what I quoted. Other expenditures (e.g. landscaping) are minimal.
15:30 Ember (emberell) I do my best to keep Oxbridge design very reasonably priced :-)
15:30 Ember (emberell) With much help from Jorge, who is a -gem- at finding decorations.
15:30 Harperlass Was just curious thanks
15:30 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) Jorge is good
15:30 highlyadjective It does look great :)
15:30 Ember (emberell) Very, very good.
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen I am supposed to do a walk-through of Oxbridge with Madori Linden in the near future. This comes as an outgrowth of my staying active in Virtual World Education Consortium (VWEC) meetings.
15:32 Ember (emberell) Do we know when that is?
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen No, just that she's said she wants to do that.
15:33 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Maybe in couple of years?
15:33 highlyadjective slaps Elf's knee
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen Before then
15:34 Wordsmith Jarvinen Also, if you look in the College of Camera Control, 4 of the 6 kiosks are now multi-language.
15:35 Ember (emberell) Very lovely work, Word
15:35 Gronk Seriman Yay!
15:35 Larky (larkylouz) Wow, Word. That's so much work, I know.
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen Work on the other two to come after I catch up on posting Q&A transcripts.
15:36 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) thank you for the effort for us Wordsmith
15:36 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) applauds
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen yvw Andrea
15:37 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) unfurls two flags to wave
15:38 Wordsmith Jarvinen Some of the updates are easy, because of translations previously done by Jorge and Stereo. Some require a few word changes and / or new screen shots in 3 languages.
15:39 Wordsmith Jarvinen For example, the camera control panel opened by the button with the eye one it, changed substantially from when the kiosk on it was last updated.
15:40 Wordsmith Jarvinen Okay, that's it from me, open for general questions and announcements
15:40 highlyadjective Which signs are translated, the tutorials ?
15:41 Ember (emberell) Yes, the orientation signs are being changed by Word to have little buttons that let you toggle the language displayed.
15:41 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) Clever
15:42 highlyadjective Oh cool
15:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen Each building has a set of kiosks plus a few tutorial graphics on the wall. I'm converting all of those from English only to English, Spanish, and French.
15:43 Wordsmith Jarvinen The entry building and the College of Avatar Motion, are already converted.
15:43 Ember (emberell) That hard work is -very- appreciated, Chancellor.
15:43 Larky (larkylouz) Absolutely!
15:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen Two more kiosks and the College of Camera Control will be added to the completed list.
15:44 highlyadjective I guess if Linden isn't doing that, they'll want to be nice to groups that are providing non-English support
15:44 highlyadjective takes more cough drops
15:45 Wordsmith Jarvinen And Larky is compiling and recompiling and recompiling lists of non-English help.
15:45 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) ty larky
15:45 Ember (emberell) The landmarks and resources change quite frequently. It's been a major help.
15:45 Wordsmith Jarvinen Recently having had to retract the Turkish help place that turns away newbies.
15:46 Larky (larkylouz) LOL. Yes, it does require a lot of repetitious updating, doesn't it?
15:46 Larky (larkylouz) That resource is still in the lists, with a disclaimer.
15:46 Ember (emberell) I keep the resource pack in the staff breakroom updated as those changes are made. I don't envy the notecard eyes you must have, Larky :_)
15:46 highlyadjective Hope you have a big monitor :)
15:46 Larky (larkylouz) is not overly fond of notecards these days!
15:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thinks about a song about having "notecard eyes".
15:47 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) You can't hide your notecard eyes?
15:47 Wordsmith Jarvinen Other questions, topics?
15:47 highlyadjective I guess you can copy/paste it into an easier to read editor
15:48 Gronk Seriman does her best Kim Carnes voice, "She's got SL notecard eyeeeees!"
15:48 Ember (emberell) That doesn't work well with embedded objects sadly
15:48 Ember (emberell) So they'd need to be re-embedded after editing the text
15:48 highlyadjective Ah
15:49 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Still hosting the Writers' Meeting in Thursdays 11:00 AM.
15:49 Larky (larkylouz) The most annoying part is the refusal of notecard titles and landmarks to take diacritical marks.
15:49 Larky (larkylouz) Seems like LL could be a bit more careful of that.
15:49 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) Yes, that's uncivilised
15:50 Wordsmith Jarvinen Borrows one of Higly's cough drops.
15:51 Larky (larkylouz) giggles
15:51 highlyadjective I got them inner aches from coughing so much
15:51 Ember (emberell) Here we are, being critical of diacriticals
15:51 Ember (emberell) Or the lack thereof :-)
15:51 Larky (larkylouz) giggles turn to guffaws
15:52 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) reverses polarity of the neutron flow
15:52 highlyadjective Hope I feel better next week so I can give my daughter her Christmas presents!
15:52 Wordsmith Jarvinen Admittedly, the lack thereof does simplify sorting and searching and the disguising of non G-rated words.
15:52 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) looks at eb,are you the doctor in disguise?
15:52 highlyadjective Do you know what percentage of users use different viewers?
15:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen No, in that sense, its elective, including any additional problems it causes for them.
15:54 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) :-)
15:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen So our tutorial deliberately aims for the default.
15:55 Gronk Seriman Back in the days of Emerald Viewer, you could see what viewers other people were using. SL didn't like that, and broke the feature.
15:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen The major alternative viewer has its own support group and help gateway.
15:55 highlyadjective I will guess from that, that the SL viewer may not be #1
15:56 Ember (emberell) the SL viewer is the most frequently used from what I understand
15:56 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) 0.0
15:56 Ember (emberell) Thogh I don't know any solid numbers on who uses what viewers. There are a few different options.
15:57 Larky (larkylouz) http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory
15:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Any last questions aw we approach the hour?
15:57 highlyadjective I met a few blind people who were using Radegast, that must be an interesting way to experience SL
15:58 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) Excellent
15:58 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) oh
15:58 Wordsmith Jarvinen Nods, totally text based, with audio reader.
15:59 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) We will need some ice skaters next Wednesday night for Teddy's photo class\
15:59 highlyadjective I was new but I furnished her apartment, had to name all the items carefully!
15:59 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) will send out a notice Monday night
15:59 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) :)
16:00 highlyadjective :, more cough drops
16:00 Larky (larkylouz) Virtual Ability is a sim that helps folks with disabilities use SL. They do some great work at getting people set up with proper software and tools
16:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen They must be covering photography of moving objects.
16:00 Ember (emberell) I sent you a box, I think I have another on the groundskeeper, Andrea
16:00 Ember (emberell) if those don't work
16:00 highlyadjective Yes! That's where I did that
16:01 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Thank you Ember
16:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen And the hour has struck (without any apparent injuries)
16:01 highlyadjective Thank you all!
16:01 Harperlass I can send some ice skating penguins
16:01 Soup Jonson +*✰*+*'*•.¸ APPLAUSE APPLAUSE ¸.•*'+*✰*+
16:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen So, accordingly
16:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen We are adjourned.
16:01 Harperlass applauds and thanks you
16:01 Larky (larkylouz) Thank you for all your hard work, Deans. And for keeping us informed. Take care and be safe, everyone.
16:01 Gronk Seriman Thank you Deans, everybody!
16:01 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Thank you all for coming
16:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thank your all for coming and participating.
16:01 highlyadjective I'm still feeling crappy so I will try a nap just before bedtime, because what badcould possibly result from that
16:01 Agatha Asuka Macbeth (agatha.macbeth) Thank you
16:02 Soup Jonson Rest well Highly!
16:02 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) best sleep to you mr eb
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Okay, Trying to get some sleep.
16:02 Sandy Burgess I will see my bed too - have a nice evening
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Hold the fort.
16:02 highlyadjective As long as I can breath while I sleep
16:02 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) poofs
16:02 Soup Jonson Hi Bumble
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) uses C_PAP machine
16:02 highlyadjective Take care Elf and Soup, and everyone
16:02 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Be seeing you
16:02 Harperlass Sleep with head elevated and rest well
16:02 highlyadjective I would use one if my nose cooperated with them
16:03 Harperlass Night all
16:04 Harperlass good speaking with you!
16:04 Ember (emberell) Ok, I need to retire again
16:04 Ember (emberell) get some rest
16:05 Ember (emberell) Take care, Word, thank you again