Caledon Oxbridge Q&A for 2022-02-27

14:51 lovejoy2199 Greetings everyone
14:51 highlyadjective Hello Lovejoy
14:52 lovejoy2199 Hello Highlyadjective
14:52 Soup Jonson quietly places a separator between himself and Highly
14:52 Soup Jonson Greetings all.
14:53 highlyadjective Why does everyone do that :(
14:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Larky, lovejoy, Elfbiter, highlyadjective, and Soup
14:54 Larky (larkylouz) Hi Everyone. Hey Ember. Highly. Hi Word
14:54 Ember (emberell) And welcome, Word .<3
14:55 Ember (emberell) Hello, Larky ❤
14:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi, Ember
14:56 Ember (emberell) Welcome, Stitches
14:57 Soup Jonson oh my Stiches :)
14:57 Soup Jonson waves
14:57 Stitches (angrynoob) Hey. :)
14:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Stitches
14:57 highlyadjective Hello Zaida :)
14:57 Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) hello
14:57 Stitches (angrynoob) I don't have your mannequin anymore, dean.
14:57 Ember (emberell) Zaida, Gronk, welcome!
14:57 Stitches (angrynoob) I could make a new one..
14:58 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Gronk and Zaida
14:58 Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) wonders where Cychie is
14:58 Gronk Seriman Good evening, everybody!
14:58 Soup Jonson Aww she went to bed sis too tired
14:58 Ember (emberell) Welcome, Lady Hauptmann
14:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Kamilah. :)
14:59 Kamilah Hauptmann Allo allo
14:59 Stitches (angrynoob) It's surreal how many familiar faces are here. Nobody in RL has stuck around as long as those in SL.
15:00 Ember (emberell) I try to keep my face new and refreshing. :-)
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome to this week's Caledon Oxbridge Deans' Q&A. This is an open meeting;
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen all are welcome apart from those who intend to misbehave in a disruptive manner.
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Non-disruptive misbehavior is at your discretion.
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Transcripts will be posted after the meeting.
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen at http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/qna/qna_index.php
15:00 Kamilah Hauptmann puts the griefer tools away.
15:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen grins
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen What do you have for us this time, Ember?
15:01 Wordsmith Jarvinen (welcome, Andrea
15:02 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) hi
15:02 Ember (emberell) Besides my usual work on the faculty kit, not much this week. I've been busy in RL with family matters. But as usual, Oxbridge is always looking for new tutors and help staff - those who are interested in being around to help out newcomers like that should reach out to me, or any of the other tutors for resources on how to get involved, applications and the like
15:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome Harper and Samm
15:02 Samm Florian waves.
15:02 Ember (emberell) That's all from me for today
15:02 Harperlass Good evening Word and everyone
15:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen Welcome, Harper and Samm
15:03 Zaida Gearbox (zaida.gearbox) waves to harper
15:03 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) highlyadjective gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen And Welcome, Agatha
15:03 Ember (emberell) Thank you so for your donation, Highly. Every bit helps so much ❤
15:03 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Thank you highly
15:03 Agatha Macbeth Hello Word
15:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen Andrea, what announcements?
15:03 highlyadjective smiles
15:03 Oxbridge Donation Coin R1 (Alternate Lecture Hall) Soup Jonson gave a generous donation to help support classes and tutorials at Caledon Oxbridge Gateway.
15:03 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) We had
15:03 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) thank you soup
15:04 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) We had a good turn out for the last bi-weekly event.
15:04 Ember (emberell) Many thanks to you as well, Soup. :-)
15:04 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) So next weeks bi weekly event will be in the same place similar theme. outdoors in the sun
15:05 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) I\ll get with Sasha later and send a notice
15:05 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) I hope to see you all there
15:05 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) back to you Wordsmith
15:05 Kamilah Hauptmann will shortly drop a 2022 Caledon Pound on everyone here.
15:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen Nods. Seems a time when many are craving sunlight.
15:05 Wordsmith Jarvinen ty, Kamilah. Much appreciated.
15:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen and welcome, Katie
15:06 highlyadjective Yay money :)
15:06 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Yes thank you very much
15:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen Not a lot from me this week.
15:07 Ember (emberell) Thanks kindly ❤
15:08 Wordsmith Jarvinen I contributed some initial topography to the new educational reserve's welcome sim. And yesterday did a co-presentation for Science Circle on extreme weather and climate change. So busier than normal. I did update the visitor statistics on our website, so it remains current through yesterday.
15:09 Wordsmith Jarvinen http://www.caledonoxbridge.org/statistics/index.php
15:09 Agatha Macbeth Yes it was very good
15:10 Larky (larkylouz) As someone more versed with statistics than I am, how worrying is the drop in traffic at COU?
15:10 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'm hoping the (won't be permanently named) Eduland effort results in Oxbridge getting referrals.
15:11 Stitches (angrynoob) I like the sound of that.
15:11 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Eduland? Sounds rather like former EduFinland :-)
15:11 Wordsmith Jarvinen Marian Questi had sent out statistics a week ago that only had one first day avatar. My statistics counted three for that week. Last week was up a bit, but still.....
15:12 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'm also going to check what's in the Destination Guide now and likely submit a form.
15:12 Gronk Seriman It's the first day visitors that seem to have dried up, looking at the lower chart on the wall.
15:12 Larky (larkylouz) very concerning. I do know that I run into many people who have an old account, but are essentially functioning as newbies. Some are returnees.
15:13 Ember (emberell) A fair number are returnees, also. We've seen more than a few looking to get back into SL with older accounts
15:13 Ember (emberell) It's a not insignificant number of our traffic, though hard to track
15:13 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes (what's on the wall is current to two-weeks ago)
15:13 Kamilah Hauptmann I've helped a number of returning avatars who skipped the whole pre-BOM mesh, does Oxbridge hsve a shopping list for the basics of catchup?
15:15 Wordsmith Jarvinen Not yet, AFAIK. I'm updating things as I go through converting the kiosks to 3 language ones
15:15 Ember (emberell) A lot of our guidance is helpful once one understands BoM, though I don't believe we have direct guidance on it, there are a few notecards for staff in the interim
15:15 Soup Jonson Well as long as your learning classes exist and evolve those first dayers may not start here but they sure will find you all is my hope as a proud friend of Oxbridge and its tasks.
15:15 Wordsmith Jarvinen I could write a Guardian article on it.
15:16 Wordsmith Jarvinen As an interim
15:16 Ember (emberell) If you do do so, let me know, I can use that to round out the notecards we pass out
15:17 Wordsmith Jarvinen I will. And also accept any input people want to contribute.
15:17 Larky (larkylouz) May I respectfully suggest that you have a lot on your plate already, and open the floor to volunteers to write an article. I'd be happy to edit if someone can get the facts down on silicon.
15:17 Kamilah Hauptmann usually grabs a Ruth 2.0 link from the Marketplace indiscriminately and lets them have at it.
15:17 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) I'm told lots of BOM stuff is mutually compatible. Or at least was not.
15:17 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) *is not
15:17 Ember (emberell) More or less, Elfbiter.
15:17 Katie (katie.canningham) But is there a Ruth 2.0 equiv for male avatars?
15:17 Larky (larkylouz) Yes, I use a lot of really old stuff as modesty layers on the several freebie mesh bodies I have. I've never had issues
15:18 Ember (emberell) I can help with the writing too, I've a fair understanding on BoM
15:18 Wordsmith Jarvinen Sounds good, Ember.
15:18 Kamilah Hauptmann Returning oldbies already know how to put clothes on, all a mesh body does for them if it's preset for BOM is smooth out the rough edges of a classic avatar.
15:19 Samm Florian should probably figure out what BOM is one of these days…
15:19 Wordsmith Jarvinen Right, and gets rid of the onion skinning used by prior mesh bodies.
15:20 Gronk Seriman Bakes on Mesh. Allows you to supposedly wear old system clothes on mesh avatars.
15:20 highlyadjective I don't know much about it either
15:20 highlyadjective I'm still a classic, or whatever it's called
15:20 Samm Florian Me too
15:20 Kamilah Hauptmann is a home brew.
15:20 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) me too
15:20 Ember (emberell) Bakes on Mesh basically extends the skin/texture system of SL to apply clothes/skins, layering to mesh avatars in addition to the classic avatar
15:21 Gronk Seriman I say "supposedly", because I found ...
15:21 Agatha Macbeth Ick
15:21 Wordsmith Jarvinen The idea being that the multiple layers worn on the classic avatar are baked to a single texture applied to the mesh avatar, so you see the result of layers without having to have multiple layers of mesh.
15:21 Soup Jonson is BOM
15:22 Gronk Seriman BoM works, but if you try any materials tricks like shiny on the mesh body, it shows through on your clothes.
15:22 highlyadjective I'm already 1000 times more gorgeous than I am in RL, so I'm content :)
15:22 Larky (larkylouz) LOL - good point
15:22 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Even in 2d? :-)
15:22 highlyadjective I'm afraid so
15:22 Ember (emberell) Reading a Universal (instead of a system clothing) to apply it to the mesh. Some may not be compatible with others if they are designed for different But essentially it will bake the universals into that one texture for the avatar. It can be dependent on what order you wear them, too, as universals apply in the order in which you add them
15:22 Harperlass i came in as classic and now have both maitraya and slink bodies...i have come to terms with using whichever displays the look the designer was shooting for
15:23 Harperlass the one thing i haven't managed to sort out is bom heads
15:23 Soup Jonson It can be painful. I'd of had to go as old soup last night to wear my Caledon tux. Frustrating.
15:23 Soup Jonson Most times I can make it happen.
15:24 Harperlass so i wear a classic head on bom bodies...old clothes generally work...old shoes do not and i am thankful
15:24 Soup Jonson Sometimes you can't
15:24 Wordsmith Jarvinen And open, btw, for general questions, comments, and announcements
15:24 Harperlass it is an initial adjustment but not terrible
15:24 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Still hosting the Writers' Meeting every Thursday
15:24 Katie (katie.canningham) raises a paw
15:25 Samm Florian has an announcement.
15:25 Soup Jonson If Oxbridge offered something on new bodies clothes etc. etc. I do think the class would be well attended.
15:25 Wordsmith Jarvinen Katie?
15:25 highlyadjective I just wanna play the game and not spend hours dressing for it :)
15:25 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Movie night for Caledonian Nights on Thursday nbights
15:25 highlyadjective I'd attend that class too Soup
15:25 Samm Florian Dressing IS th'game fer some folks. :)
15:25 Harperlass well as nearly as i can tell that was a problem pre bom
15:25 Katie (katie.canningham) Forgive me if this has been asked before, but do you know when Caledon was removed from Newcomer Friendly Destinations?
15:25 Gronk Seriman I never understood how the mesh body market got split into bodies and heads. Unnecessarily complicated. All my mesh is complete. Pretty rare.
15:25 highlyadjective True
15:25 Wordsmith Jarvinen I believe that Katie raised a paw and I acknowledged her!!
15:25 Harperlass and i am always puzzled when people describe bom as new to me...its been around for some years now?
15:26 Harperlass sorr
15:26 Katie (katie.canningham) 'sokay
15:26 Samm Florian Some of us are older'n mesh. :D
15:26 Wordsmith Jarvinen If you don't have the floor, don't talk
15:26 Samm Florian covers her mouth.
15:26 Wordsmith Jarvinen Katie first
15:27 Harperlass flushes embarrassed and apologizes to Katie
15:27 Katie (katie.canningham) humbly accepts
15:27 Wordsmith Jarvinen Katie?
15:28 Katie (katie.canningham) Forgive me if this has been asked before, but do you know when Caledon was removed from Newcomer Friendly Destinations?
15:28 Katie (katie.canningham) Also, could that be affecting visitor stats?
15:28 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) As far as know that setting comes and goes...
15:28 Ember (emberell) I believe it is still there?
15:28 Wordsmith Jarvinen That's something I didn't know about until the other day. It was supposed to be changed from Caledon to Caledon Oxbridge, last I knew.
15:28 Ember (emberell) (viewing the page now)
15:29 Ember (emberell) Though it is displayed as Caledon, not Caledon Oxbridge
15:29 Katie (katie.canningham) I don't know if it's on the website, but the in-world gui doesn't have it
15:29 Katie (katie.canningham) I went to show it to a newcomer friend, and it was missing
15:29 Ember (emberell) Oh, that's true, I don't see it there.
15:29 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'll check that out.
15:29 Katie (katie.canningham) ok!
15:30 Katie (katie.canningham) good luck!
15:30 Wordsmith Jarvinen And next?
15:30 Samm Florian Next weekend is th'Annual Rose Hunt.
15:30 Soup Jonson applauds
15:30 Katie (katie.canningham) ♩♪♫♬ APPAWS! ♩♪♫♬
15:30 Soup Jonson Tis fun
15:31 Wordsmith Jarvinen A long tradition.
15:31 Samm Florian It'll start on Saturday at 4pm SLT, though th'roses won't disappear this year so you can start it whenever ya like. It'll last fer a week.
15:31 Wordsmith Jarvinen Great
15:31 Soup Jonson I shall mention it at my event!
15:31 Soup Jonson raises his hand
15:32 Samm Florian Thanks. :)
15:32 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thanks, Samm
15:33 Wordsmith Jarvinen If you want to put a poster out in front of the lecture hall that's okay by me.
15:33 Samm Florian Cool. :)
15:33 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) I can do some promotions . please send me the info and a poster if you make one
15:34 Wordsmith Jarvinen Next?
15:34 Soup Jonson raises hand
15:34 Wordsmith Jarvinen Soup
15:35 Soup Jonson I wondered if an Oxbridge donation coin can be placed at my event even though it is at Writers Island? Arton is strong supporter of Stormhold and her and Des communicate.
15:36 Soup Jonson I moved there because of life-long friendship with Arton
15:36 Soup Jonson My love is Caledon
15:36 Wordsmith Jarvinen Where's you event and who is the parcel owner?
15:37 highlyadjective That would be nice :)
15:37 Soup Jonson The event is at Writers Island a homestead owned by Arton Tripsa who also owns much of stormhold these days and hosts Zens exhibit
15:38 Wordsmith Jarvinen Ah, you said writer's island. Oxbridge Mint would need to be invited to the land group to rez a coin
15:38 Soup Jonson She links to the Writers Center in Stormhold directly from that Skybox
15:38 Soup Jonson The main cente ris in Caledon
15:38 Soup Jonson So whom do I have Arton communicate with
15:38 Larky (larkylouz) Hi Jan.
15:38 Larky (larkylouz) waves. "Welcome"
15:38 Jan Stroikavskoi Hi Larky :)
15:39 Wordsmith Jarvinen Arton can communicate with me, but a group invite needs to go to Oxbridge Mint. Any coin rezzed has to belong to Mint.
15:39 Soup Jonson Okay TY kindly.
15:40 Wordsmith Jarvinen Hi, Jan
15:40 Jan Stroikavskoi Hi Word!
15:40 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) hi jan
15:40 Jan Stroikavskoi Hi Andrea :)
15:41 Wordsmith Jarvinen So, yes, that can be arranged Soup.
15:41 Wordsmith Jarvinen Next?
15:42 Soup Jonson Thank you Dean Jarvinen
15:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen yvw
15:42 Katie (katie.canningham) oo I'm sorry I shoulda said thankees!
15:42 Katie (katie.canningham) thankees!
15:42 Soup Jonson writes down Katie's name
15:42 Wordsmith Jarvinen yvw, Katie
15:43 Larky (larkylouz) I've just finished posting updates on Zan's health journey and on Eduland, using a post Kyoko put in the CDS forum. Ongoing discussion on the forum. Word, if you know of a more general discussion, I'm all ears. https://caledonoxbridge.notion.site/Second-Life-Resources-for-COU-Staff-and-Visitors-e4afd11e4c0447158f8989cc4c083b96
15:44 Wordsmith Jarvinen No, although CDS, apart from Kyoko, seems more dubious than I am.
15:46 Wordsmith Jarvinen I'm part of the team working on creating this. And Madori Linden did an extensive question and answer session last Wednesday morning. She had something interfering with this week, which would have been her normal campfire time (first Wednesdays at 9am SLT).
15:46 Larky (larkylouz) They're a community built on discussion! (For those who don't know, CDS is a self-governed community of many years. There is some cross-over between Caledon residents and those of the CDS)
15:47 Larky (larkylouz) I think Inara Pey had a discussion of that. I'll look.
15:47 Kamilah Hauptmann Plus some hilarious drama over the years.
15:47 Larky (larkylouz) grins
15:47 Samm Florian waves g'bye t'folks.
15:47 Kamilah Hauptmann nini, Samm
15:48 Wordsmith Jarvinen LL, to this point is contributing one core sim. There was mention of a possible 2nd sim -- Teleport Island, but Madori hasn't cleared that one yet.
15:49 Wordsmith Jarvinen They are not providing water sims. Any adjacency is by mutual agreements.
15:50 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) is not fond of forum drama
15:50 Wordsmith Jarvinen Sims admitted to the reserve (5029 sim slots) are to be G or M rated, and can be educational or non-profits.
15:51 Wordsmith Jarvinen Goals are to have at least 2/3 be educational with up to 1/3 residential.
15:52 Wordsmith Jarvinen The hope is to create a reserve acceptable and attractive to educators and educational administrators.
15:52 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) any idea if LL has approached organization who _used to_ have educational sims?
15:52 Gronk Seriman SL or RL educators?
15:53 Wordsmith Jarvinen Yes, Gronk
15:53 lovejoy2199 Ok. So maybe on-line universities?
15:53 Gronk Seriman Ah.
15:53 Lyn (lyn.navarita) Will newcomers go there like they do to Newcomer friendly sims now?
15:53 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) There were lots of Finnish schools and universities represented in EduFinland when I started.
15:54 Wordsmith Jarvinen The focus, however, is to encourage RL educators interested in virtual world education and to provide resources to enable that.
15:54 lovejoy2199 Ok
15:55 Wordsmith Jarvinen And this is not mainland, btw
15:55 lovejoy2199 Maybe a CMU. That would be nice
15:55 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) EduFinland was a series of private sims
15:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen CMU?
15:56 Katie (katie.canningham) was?
15:56 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) It is mostly gone now.
15:56 Katie (katie.canningham) :(
15:56 Wordsmith Jarvinen As this will be. But Virtual ability is likely to move there
15:56 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Last time I checked there was one region left.
15:57 lovejoy2199 Carnegie-Mellon University
15:57 Soup Jonson Pittsburgh!
15:57 Soup Jonson Spent first 40 years of my life there!
15:57 Wordsmith Jarvinen Of what was a prior university region, Stanford and SJSU seem to be what's left and are still adjacent.
15:58 Stitches (angrynoob) I hear it's the pitts.
15:58 Soup Jonson lol
15:58 Wordsmith Jarvinen Palm to forehead. Yep, that would be the hope, lovejoy.
15:59 Harperlass raises hand
15:59 lovejoy2199 Hey!!!! I go for the best.
15:59 Wordsmith Jarvinen There was a period in about 2010-2011 in which LL leadership stated they were not interested in education. That's changed.
15:59 Katie (katie.canningham) YAY!!!!
15:59 Kamilah Hauptmann needs to derp along, blessed be, all.
16:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen Also, there will be locked down K-12 areas having their own reg API.
16:00 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) by miss kammy
16:00 Ember (emberell) Take care, Kamilah, always good to see you
16:00 Jan Stroikavskoi Bye Kamilah :)
16:00 Katie (katie.canningham) Cheers!
16:00 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) And they will change their mind again...
16:00 Wordsmith Jarvinen And our hour is up. Any last quick questions?
16:01 Lyn (lyn.navarita) Will newcomers go there like they do to Newcomer friendly sims now?
16:01 Lyn (lyn.navarita) Maybe I missed that, being late. Sorry.
16:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen The idea is to send new educators there, teach them how to walk and cam, and then send them to places like Oxbridge.
16:02 Wordsmith Jarvinen And students of educators
16:03 Agatha Macbeth Sounds good in theory
16:03 Wordsmith Jarvinen In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
16:03 Agatha Macbeth Indeed!
16:03 Harperlass <lowers her hand and leaves
16:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen And with that, we're adjourned.
16:04 Katie (katie.canningham) :(
16:04 Wordsmith Jarvinen Thank you all for coming and participating.
16:04 Lyn (lyn.navarita) : remembers going nomad when my mentor had to abandon his education island.
16:04 Gronk Seriman Thank you, Deans!
16:04 Larky (larkylouz) Thank you, Deans, participants.
16:04 Jan Stroikavskoi Thank you :)
16:05 highlyadjective Thank you :)
16:05 Jan Stroikavskoi OK Sig.. ready?
16:05 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) Thank you for coming
16:05 Sigurd Hammerthall Yes
16:06 Ember (emberell) Take care, friends
16:06 highlyadjective Goodnight to all
16:06 Wordsmith Jarvinen Gronk, do you know anything about use of headsets in SL?
16:06 Ember (emberell) as always, questions, trouble, anything, always feel free to IM me
16:06 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Past my bedtime
16:06 Andrea Jones (andreajonesms) night elf
16:06 Ember (emberell) I've had to troubleshoot headset issues a few times, Word, but I never used one myself
16:06 Gronk Seriman Earphones or VR goggles?
16:06 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Hold the fort
16:06 lovejoy2199 Goodnight Elf
16:06 Elfbiter Skysmith (elfbiter) Be seeing you
16:06 highlyadjective Goodnight Soup, Elf
16:06 highlyadjective Be seeing you!
16:06 Ember (emberell) Oh, VR headsets?
16:07 Ember (emberell) I have an article on how to set up SL for them, but it's not very reliavble iirc
16:07 Ember (emberell) Framerate issues